Whats with JumpDs mods! Part 2

[Code Monkey]

What you said was wrong, plain and simple, it cut straight to the heart of peoples desire to help here. If you are not man enough to admit it then you need fixing.

I am man enough to admit that removing my hacks was not the best thing to do, and when I came back to fix it they were gone. Policies are for everday events. When a community is in turmoil thoughtful actions are what is needed to stay the course. This is when policies make things worse.

When Marco decided to use policy to remove my hack threads, he made the conscious decision to confirm that what you had said was in fact, how the staff felt.

So, I move on. Please close this dead end thread.

[Zachery]

But what was my meaning jump, I want to know what you think I said. So I can apologize for it. I've already apologized on multiple ocasions for the words I said, for alot of reasons.

If you wish to move on, then I bid you farewell and i wish you the best wherever life takes you. I know you will be missed here.

[Chris M]

Originally Posted by JumpD

What you said was wrong, plain and simple, it cut straight to the heart of peoples desire to help here. If you are not man enough to admit it then you need fixing.

I am man enough to admit that removing my hacks was not the best thing to do, and when I came back to fix it they were gone. Policies are for everday events. When a community is in turmoil thoughtful actions are what is needed to stay the course. This is when policies make things worse.

When Marco decided to use policy to remove my hack threads, he made the conscious decision to confirm that what you had said was in fact, how the staff felt.

So, I move on. Please close this dead end thread.

He made a conscious decision to follow the policy, nothing more...

Chris

[Code Monkey]

The message is loud and clear. Goobye

[Paul M]

Goodbye JumpD.

You have, IMO, made the wrong choice, but I guess that's up to you. Good luck for the future.

[Tralala]

Originally Posted by Zachery

To the staff this was taken as you are no longer providing support for your modifications here.

Zachery, do you have any idea how many hack threads are here with no support whatsoever? Even in cases where support was promised at the start, the author just disappears into the ether, and their hacks languish with newbies bumping the thread incessantly... like zombies in the night... wondering WTF is going on. And yet those threads remain.

JumpD shared some stellar hacks and even impressive (and immediate) support. And his hacks were installed by hundreds of users here. Those threads contained thousands of posts that could help users (even in a locked state).


Okay so you have a brain-dead "policy." Perhaps some sort of "grace period" while tensions cooled would've been the WISE thing to invoke last week.


The course of action now places the burden on JumpD to "ask for his threads to be reinstated." This passes the buck, turns a personal conflict into a public ++++-swinging contest, and hurts the users of this site in the process.

Please answer this question: WHY exactly is this policy in place, and what needs to be done around here so the decision-makers can see that it's a stupid one? How can it be made more sensible, so you don't consistently snowball a small problem into a big one?

Is it really about "the author no longer providing support?" If so, that's the case for many, many hacks here (either explicitly, or eventually implied by the authors' disappearance.)

This is not a good policy for an intelligent community. Work toward changing it now, please.

[Code Monkey]

It's over bud. They don't care. I PM'd you where you can find support for now. I appreciate the support, but it's just over.

[Tralala]

Originally Posted by JumpD

I am man enough to admit that removing my hacks was not the best thing to do, and when I came back to fix it they were gone.

We ask "What's with JumpD's mods?"

Moderators, please read JumpD's statement above, and see what your "policy" has wrought. The users need to read this too, to understand the true chain of events. Had Marco waited more than a few hours to delete the legendary threads, this whole fiasco may have been avoided.

Originally Posted by JumpD

It's over bud. They don't care. I PM'd you where you can find support for now. I appreciate the support, but it's just over.

Message received, loud and clear. Ironic that a forum about running forums is run by a bunch of folks who can't tell their ass from their elbow. As a result, I'll cover my own, continue to learn independently, save threads as necessary, and make the relationships I need to take care of my own business.

What's happened around here is just downright pathetic.

[Xenon]

The policy has nothing to do with support itself, but as hackthreads where the actual hack has been removed are getting deleted, nothing more, nothing less.

That is the policy. I agree, that we may have to change that policy, but we won't do it now in a rush, just because one or two users beg to change it now. We have a priority list and will follow this list, this policy is on that list but not at the actual position.

I hope that this explains the process and that this discussion comes to an end now.

[FASherman]

Originally Posted by Xenon

The policy has nothing to do with support itself, but as hackthreads where the actual hack has been removed are getting deleted, nothing more, nothing less.

That is the policy. I agree, that we may have to change that policy, but we won't do it now in a rush, just because one or two users beg to change it now. We have a priority list and will follow this list, this policy is on that list but not at the actual position.

I hope that this explains the process and that this discussion comes to an end now.

Thats the kind of "both sides of the isssue" answer we've come to expect from politicians - and you can't afford that perception.

There is a reason politicians are nearly as despised as used car salesmen. If you emulate their behavior, then this site will end up having the same credibility.

What is so damned hard about admitting you made a mistake and fixing it without hiding behind stupid rules?

If the VB.Org staff works for me, I'd be firing the lot about now. Rules are no substitute for common sense and customer satisfaction.