Duplicate Mods

[TECK]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Nope, I am correct. You pay for a vbulletin licence. That does not entitle you to access to this site (or even the vb.com forums). It allows you to use vbulletin and also the support system.

You are wrong. There is nothing mentioned about your affirmation anywhere in vBulletin Members Area or their license agreement. It is stated clearly that you can have access to a variety of support forums. On top of that, the license owner can decide what vBulletin Support Forums he/she can access.

From vBullettin Site:

Home ? Support ? Priority Forums Support
By opting-in to the priority support service, you will be able to access customer-only information and resources on a number of vBulletin forums for as long as your vBulletin customer account contains at least one active vBulletin license. To utilize this service, you must first check the box next to the forums that you wish to participate in using the form below. You can then register on the external forums using the same email address assigned to your customer account.

If you would block my access to those forums, for any reasons who does not violate the Jelsoft and vBulletin license agreement nor the site code of conduct, rest assured that I will sue Jelsoft instantly. Especially when I have over $1,500.00 worth of vBulletin licenses.

In other words, only Jelsoft can decide who cannot have access to a vBulletin site, based on the above mentioned facts. Since you are not representing Jelsoft in any way and you are granted administrative tasks to vBulletin.org on a pure volunteer form, you are not allowed to ban anyone from vBulletin.org forums.

I hope this answers your questions and will determine you to think twice before you affirm something in public that can be associated with discrimination and harassment, in a court of law.

[Dream]

Wasn't this thread about mod versions?

The way it is today might be the best.

Do you create one thread for each mod version you have? If you choose what versions each zip file works for the system would be too complex I think, maybe not feasible. Supporting different versions would become complicated (not really my problem cause I don't give support officially, but it would).

It could, however, solve the problem of posting exactly the same mod multiple times. My Read PMs mod for example, the most common question is "does it works on latest version", and I'm not going to make a whole new thread just for it. I would press a few buttons though to let people know it works on newer versions.

Also actually some mods change drastically between vb versions, and may warrant a completely new thread. The rules for creating a new thread for the same mod should be well thought out if a better version system was put in place. For one, I could totally change the mod, and want a new support thread for it as I said above. It's a nice idea that should be thought out.

You should ask what Cyb thinks about it, he has many mods with different versions scattered around.

--------------- Added 02 Nov 2008 at 04:11 ---------------

Originally Posted by Paul M

While it is true that releasing the same mod in two areas (like 3.6 and 3.7) will affect the coders ranking, it wont actually have as big an effect as some think - as each area has a preset weighting, so mods in the 3.6 area do not count as much as mods in the 3.7 area. The older the version, the less weight it has.

If the site was starting from scratch then we wouldnt have seperate areas, there would be some sort of version system in the release thread to show which vb versions it was valid for. However, doing this now would cause a huge headache and potentially tons of work trying to get all existing releases to use a new system. Besides which there are often minor differences between releases anyway.

Maybe when vb 4.0 comes out a new system may be looked at, since its likely that 99% of existing mods will need to be updated and re-released at that point, I think any change before then is highly unlikely.

Actually, it's just a matter of slapping a 3.6 tag on mods on the 3.6 forum and so on.

--------------- Added 02 Nov 2008 at 04:15 ---------------

Originally Posted by Gio~Logist

Danny dude, lol I actually had trusted you more than to say something like "as a user your suggestions are invaluable". Lets take a look at the user to staff ratio and just how much of any website's success is due to "their users". Or am I missing something here?

It's agreed that the mods system needs improvement, even Paul was able to admit to that. The fact that you guys are waiting till vb4, although I do share the restlessness that others do for better organization, is understandable due to the fact that vb4 will bring an immense amount of changes. But the key here is just always knowing where there's need for improvement, especially when the suggestions are made from members who posted modifications here for free.

Actually, removing the dependency of the mods repository on vB would be the best for everyone, especially the poor souls that have to recode everything every time a different vB version comes out. I would start separating the mods section from vB right now (not me literally /runs away) and using the forums solely for comments/support. So you'd basically just have to tie the two systems, hopefully taking a day or two.

[King Kovifor]

As this thread has gone way off topic and has turned into yet another staff bashing thread, this thread is at an end.

[Paul M]

Edit: Nevermind, didnt notice this had been closed.