Where did the VBlogetin go?

[kushal]

Eventually adding another module/add on with the current blog script would keep the company alive and ticking and especially the VBlogetin. The primary reason is that all official products are pretty bare like the forum script and a blog module would follow the suit.

So VBlogetin should in fact make new scripts, but in conjunction with Vblogetin would keep enough competition.

Vblogs would derive strength with being VB product and Vblogetin can be by more of goodies and add ons.

[eJM]

The real deal is that you have chosen to wait - and keep your customers waiting - on a registrar that has already caused you a huge problem and it shut your place of business down. Why you have ignored the gift of a top level domain name that is almost identical to your original is incredulous.

www.vBlogetin.net

It's not the dot COM, but it's certainly close enough for a temporary site. I offered to give you free hosting for a year and made a database available and gave you FTP access IF you wanted to leave it where it is and get going right away - no delay.

You could have also told me what to change the DNS settings to so you could set it up on your own host (a short delay, but a guaranteed and recognized domain name on your own server).

I asked for your details so I could transfer ownership of the domain to you and you could do whatever you want with it from there.

It costs you NOTHING. I offered any or all of this for free, just so you could get back up and running, even if just as a temporary base to be able to give you and your customers a communications avenue - something to show your customers they are important to you.

You choose to ignore me because you think I'm rude. How foolish can you get? This shows even more of your lack of respect for your customers. I even told you, in a PM I sent to you on another forum (trying to meet my self-imposed obligation to you when this forum was down) that you owed me absolutely no consideration and your disdain for me should not change because of this. You can take the domain and run and not look back. To be sure I didn't do this as a kindness to you, but because I have empathy and consideration for my fellow vBlogetin users. It would be a smart decision for you to take the domain in that same regard.

Jim

[SBlueman]

I am one of SirAdrian's customers and I can attest to the fact that he does indeed respect his customers. He went above and beyond in helping me and I am sure others can attest to the same fact. My blog at GridironFans.com is running smooth thanks to his fine mod and help.

I am sure that in time all will be ok with the site. I look forward to it coming back and will be patient enough to let things run their course.

[Adrian Schneider]

Thanks, SBlueman.

Jim, the reason I am not doing that is because it is essentially entrusting you with all our customer information. Either that, or the temporary site is ultimately in your control, and that is not something I would be comfortable with. Thanks for offering, though. I appreciate it.

Waiting a few days for the domain to transfer is OK. I would rather have the domain secured under my own registrar than muck around with the current one, or trust another person with the site. That's how this happened in the first place (not that it was his fault, but it wasn't in my control). Why would I do that again with you?

The users have just as good a chance finding this thread than they would the temporary site. If anybody needs support, they can email or PM me to receive it.

BTW: The initial problem was a glitch on their site. For one of his other domains, he was unable to edit the registrar information, so one of techs did something (which reset ALL of his domain DNS info). It still hasn't been fixed for some of the domains, otherwise we would update the DNS while we are waiting for the transfer to go through.

[rwilkins108]

Originally Posted by SirAdrian

The users have just as good a chance finding this thread than they would the temporary site. If anybody needs support, they can email or PM me to receive it.

I agree with AJ, I found this thread soon after finding vblogetin.com at a landing page and didn't even try .net until Jim said he would register it. Anyway, I think Jim has good intentions, but overly demanding, even in his offer to help. People, let's get over it, I imagine things have happened in all our lives that we would have done differently or wish we had more control over, so let's move on. If you don't like the way things are going in terms of development, you have other options, otherwise let's try to be constructive here.

[kall]

All this angst (mainly from EJM)!

I noticed the site was redirecting. I was concerned. I emailed Adrian through his Contact link on siradrian.com. He reassured me. I bought another license. All good.

Seriously. Shit happens. Deal with it. Work around problems. Complaining is often a serious waste of time. Highly amusing, but time-wasting noetheless.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by eJM

The real deal is that you have chosen to wait - and keep your customers waiting ...... <snip>

While I'm sure you have you reasons for these attacks, I think it's time we stepped in now - vbulletin.org is not the place to be taking out your frustrations about another commercial site over which we have no control, esp as you are getting rather personal. If you have concerns then please feel free to contact the member concerned privately.

Thank you.

you know what... at the second SirAdrian knew the site was down due to the domain problems, the first thing he did was not to claim it was not his fault, and it was not that he did not care...

the first thing he did was to contact me to see if it was possible to speed up the recovery of his domain to not let his clients and members in the dark...

a lazy unrespectful person would not have that in mind when such problem occurs...

some said he was not doing much upgrade on his script and he was not giving support on his site... sure, but who is there to help him actually ?! the ones dedicated to his project are working on solutions to help you have a great tool for the future, not only for the day... and with the recent events regarding other blogs and vBulletin updates, SirAdrian was trying to make the best of his time to debug and plan for the next parade...

i'd like to see who is able to go that far on such a small gap of time...

i'd like to know also if you all are able to write such a great tool in that small period where he developped this blog system... because i remember the first day he was writing the premises of his product, and i can tell i answered a lot of weird questions to be sure it was possible and interesting to have this or that feature... and the time, money and resources dedicated to the development of this tool from the ground zero time, nobody here was able to see it coming...

so please, can you just evaluate the value of the tool you have in hands instead of complaining that he his a bit exhausted these days and need to spread his energies to be able to come back stronger... ?!

this is a real circus... everybody have something to complain even if they don't do a single effort to understand and do the right choices... some of the comments i've read here just indicate that these authors does not deserve to be served professionally...

[eJM]

Originally Posted by SirAdrian

Jim, the reason I am not doing that is because it is essentially entrusting you with all our customer information. Either that, or the temporary site is ultimately in your control, and that is not something I would be comfortable with. Thanks for offering, though. I appreciate it.

Waiting a few days for the domain to transfer is OK. I would rather have the domain secured under my own registrar than muck around with the current one, or trust another person with the site. That's how this happened in the first place (not that it was his fault, but it wasn't in my control). Why would I do that again with you?

More excuses. It's unbelievable. Will they ever end?

I gave you several options and you could have taken any one or all of them. The most important among them is to transfer the domain, vBlogetin.net, into your ownership, which is something that should have been done at the same time vBlogetin.com was registered. Had I known your information (name, address, phone number), I would have registered the domain with that instead of my own. As the owner of the domain, you can transfer it to your own registrar or whoever you want (BTW, vBlogetin.net is registered with the same company SirAdrian.com is - GoDaddy - which means it wouldn't require transferring registrars).

Your trust issues concerning your customer information is laudable, but you've already trusted it with people who aren't very responsible. Be that as it may; you wouldn't have had to install those records on my host anyway. You could have set up a temporary board to handle communications about the products and merged the data with the permanent board when you were able to get it back online.

There are options I haven't even thought of, but you don't seem to be all that concerned about the stability of your base of operation. You don't seem to mind that your flagship product is without a home for as much as a week and a half or more and the poor publicity it gets here isn't helping the situation at all.

The users have just as good a chance finding this thread than they would the temporary site. If anybody needs support, they can email or PM me to receive it.

Well, I didn't find this topic very easily. You could have sent an email out to your customers (at least them) to inform them of the problem. I haven't seen some of the other vBlogetin members that have been most active on your site here either. You are a member of a number of other message boards and you haven't bothered to address the issue on any that I have found except here - and only here because someone else brought it up. You didn't even bother to change your signature to bring attention to the DNS problems until today.

Look, do a little research and then decide how you want to deal with vBulletin.net. I'm not hard to learn about. There's a few big companies and organizations that trust me (my newest client is a consumer group associated with Segways and I'm building a site for an educational organization). That doesn't mean you should trust me with your customer data, but you might consider me a good risk for your address and phone number.

All businesses should at the very least obtain the TLD's of any site they develop - that includes the dot COM and the dot NET domain names. If you don't trust me with your address and phone number, then let me know who else to give it to. I would have given it to the guy who developed your SirAdrian.com site, but he hasn't stayed on top of the registration schedule either and if he doesn't renew SirAdrian.com in the next 30 days or so, you'll lose that one too. Why he never bothered to obtain SirAdrian.net for you too is beyond me (as a beginner in the web development field). It's just cheap insurance.

These issues should be a lesson to anyone wanting to do business over the Internet. If your name or your product has a website or just a domain name attached to it, you better make sure you know what's going on with it at all times. And you better have a backup plan for when something goes wrong. And never, EVER discount good advice just because you don't happen to like the guy who gives it.

Jim

Originally Posted by Paul M

While I'm sure you have you reasons for these attacks, I think it's time we stepped in now - vbulletin.org is not the place to be taking out your frustrations about another commercial site over which we have no control, esp as you are getting rather personal. If you have concerns then please feel free to contact the member concerned privately.

Thank you.

I just posted my last message before seeing this (you posted while I was composing). My apologies. I don't mean to make it personal. I just want professionalism from a company I entrust with my money - and my credit card details). Again, I'm very sorry to have made this personal. I will not do it again. I've tried contacting Adrian in private, but have not gotten a response except in this thread. I won't push it.

Thank you,

Jim

I think the original question of this thread was answered. Queries or complaints directed at commercial third parties do not belong on vBulletin.org.