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Zachery · #41 05-21-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul M

It would not be hard to do really if the will was there - just install something like the thank you system, or even just turn on the reputation system (disable the negative part, and disable it in non relevant forums) - and then have some titles based on how much people get thanked or repped for help.

We don't really need yet another popularity contest here.

TeaTree · #42 05-21-2006, 11:46 AM

The usertitle system is a good way of thanking users, and it has also been earnt-So in my opinion, is fine as it is

Rich · #43 05-21-2006, 11:47 AM

The only thing that sucks about the rep system is that there are people that get an answer and don't say thanks at all. They up and disappear until their next question arises.

I am with Kerry and think that the default ladder could be modified. Clearly a user that sticks around long enough to write 150+ posts has established some sort of "relationship" with the site.

Of course you jump up to a higher figure for those that have been here longer to get promotoed to the next level.

Basically, relying on users to click a button is ...well...unreliable.

Paul M · #44 05-21-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachery

We don't really need yet another popularity contest here.

Well excuse me for backing you up. I'll shut up now.

Zachery · #45 05-21-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul M

Well excuse me for backing you up. I'll shut up now.

I just think we need to do away with all of the speration that exsists here at this time, yes you guys are coders (to me there is no difference between someone who codes advanced languages like c# php asp.net and xhtml and css), you guys all work hard. Your thanks should be from the users who thank you and the satasification that you made someones life easier. Titles are nice, but they are doing more harm than good now. The community needs to be unified, not seperated more.

Rich · #46 05-21-2006, 12:08 PM

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I just think we need to do away with all of the speration that exsists here at this time, yes you guys are coders (to me there is no difference between someone who codes advanced languages like c# php asp.net and xhtml and css), you guys all work hard. Your thanks should be from the users who thank you and the satasification that you made someones life easier. Titles are nice, but they are doing more harm than good now. The community needs to be unified, not seperated more.

The only people complaining about this are those that haven't contributed to this site! Who cares if you can code or style. If you haven't coded a release or style for this site, don't expect a title. Period! Its not a difficult concept.

I will use myself as a good example. I am a better designer than I am a coder. In fact, when I have some time, I can guarantee that I will get the "Master Designer" title. Now I know I can style with the best of them, but no one here knows that. So wheres my Master Designer title? Its not under my name because I didn't do anything on this site to deserve it! I can sell styles and modify the hell out of other peoples sites, but until I donate some work to this site, I don't get the title! I know this, I understand this, and I AGREE with this!

When someone donates on a users site to help with costs, they normally get a user markup and title added to them. If a user came to me and said he doesn't think it is fair that they have a different color and usertitle would YOU change your policy on that? They could tell you all day that they have money in their wallet, but they never donated. So would you place them on the same plain as a user that has? Would you drop the title from those users? If you did, you would lose potential donations.

This is VERY similar to that. We have people that can code that don't donate wanting things to be "equal". I say "The hell with that!" There is nothing equal about a user that USES mods and a user that RELEASES them. They ARE on different plains.

Zachery · #47 05-21-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

The only people complaining about this are those that haven't contributed to this site! Who cares if you can code or style. If you haven't coded a release or style for this site, don't expect a title. Period! Its not a difficult concept.

I will use myself as a good example. I am a better designer than I am a coder. In fact, when I have some time, I can guarantee that I will get the "Master Designer" title. Now I know I can style with the best of them, but no one here knows that. So wheres my Master Designer title? Its not under my name because I didn't do anything on this site to deserve it! I can sell styles and modify the hell out of other peoples sites, but until I donate some work to this site, I don't get the title! I know this, I understand this, and I AGREE with this!

When someone donates on a users site to help with costs, they normally get a user markup and title added to them. If a user came to me and said he doesn't think it is fair that they have a different color and usertitle would YOU change your policy on that? They could tell you all day that they have money in their wallet, but they never donated. So would you place them on the same plain as a user that has? Would you drop the title from those users? If you did, you would lose potential donations.

This is VERY similar to that. We have people that can code that don't donate wanting things to be "equal". I say "The hell with that!" There is nothing equal about a user that USES mods and a user that RELEASES them. They ARE on different plains.

I've got a title, and I'm complaining about it, for the first few years of my vB.org life, I was a support monkey for a few select hacks. Most of my work was done at vBT and we had no master designers or similiar system. We all lived worked and got along fine

Paul M · #48 05-21-2006, 12:22 PM

30 years ago we all got along fine with out PC's at all - that doesn't mean we should all go back to that way because it was fine - things change.

Rich · #49 05-21-2006, 12:25 PM

Put it in a poll Zachery. I would be interested to see what the outcome of a poll would reveal. Setup a poll asking if the members of this site want to remove the usertitle system as it is now and lets allow responses.

Personally, if my title were removed it wouldn't make a difference to me but I do not agree with those that CAN code saying they should have a title when they HAVEN'T coded anything for this site.

I am being serious. If this is a change that you and the staff are considering, get a poll setup and make it a requirement for every user that votes to voice WHY they voted the way they did. if they don't post why, remove their vote. Lets see how it turns out.

Zachery · #50 05-21-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul M

30 years ago we all got along fine with out PC's at all - that doesn't mean we should all go back to that way because it was fine - things change.

My point is now, our community is divided, We've got non coders, coders, and staff. Everyone seems to be on edge with each other, some take elitist attitudes toward others. In order to negate this, we should be a group of people working together toward common goals. The separation of special user titles is not helping.

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