Did the criteria for Coder titles drop majorly recently?

[Delphiprogrammi]

well...

I don't understand the hassle.It's just a "label" below your username.Xenon can take mine away i won't even notice it has been taken away.I don't count the number of installs from the stuff i have in here.It is just a useless number that won't bring you any further ....

just my two cents

[Paul M]

Coder seems awfully easy to get, but then it always has been, I remember being surprised when I released my first two hacks, that it happened almost straight away.

Advanced and Master seem easier these days - you seem able to go from zero to master in just a few short months. You ought to have to be a coder for at least six months before moving to the next level.

I don't know what the hacks/installs levels are now, but I would have four levels, and set them at something like Coder = 3/75, Advanced Coder = 10/400, Senior Coder = 15/800, Master Coder = 20/2500, I would also specify that for each level, at least one hack must have a minimum install count (Coder = 20, Advanced Coder = 75, Senior Coder = 150, Master Coder = 300).

Of course, that's all just my biased opinion.

[Xenon]

actually:
Advanced Coder: 52, Master Coder: 11

there aren't much new ones in that list, it's just that a few more active new ones are here, but that minimum install count for getting a title is an interesting idea, which i might include

[Roms]

One hack shouldn't make someone a coder or a designer... Maybe just change the coder title to something like "Novice Coder" and then after 5 different Mods they get a coder title... Same with designer.

Why should members that haven't been around that long get a Coder title unless they really deserve it. In my opinion, members need to Contribute to the community for special titles..

[davidw]

I'm going to earn my wings...

[Logikos]

It took me years to get the master coder title. I think the Master Coder title is fine. The advanced and Coder title could be adjusted alittle to make it alittle harder to get.

[Freesteyelz]

Good reasoning, LiveWire. The issue here is really about integrity, not necessarily about (coding or designing) experience. The members who have higher titles earned it, they are seasoned and have contributed exclusively to vB.org.

While we're discussing more about Coders than Designers I think both fit into the same boat. The qualifications of a Designer is much more than what people may associate them with. If a title is given so easily then it has no meaning. It's the same with Coders' title.

When I first got "Designer" I thought it was cool but I was surprised. I'm new here and haven't payed my dues. I'm here because I like what the community is about; O and I love designing sites/boards. Without my "Designer" title it wouldn't make me any less; I'd still be here. If the reputation is being seeked there are other ways of achieving it.

Again, titles of any level to me is about integrity.

[Logikos]

I acually set a goal back then to get the Master Title. I wanted to learn how to code really bad back then, and gaining the Master Coder title was my reward.

Now I just want to learn more then I know now.

[Eikinskjaldi]

Really the titles don't bother me, Generally I code for people on a private client basis rather then on the public side, thats just what I do. The title only add's the benefit of the coders chat, which while a nice resource, isnt needed by me and so yes, they are right, I wouldn't notice it missing, but it is nice. :P If I was after the coder tags id be posting hacks I have made just to get there, but to what point? I don't get my clients from my little vb.org tag, I get my clients from old work iv completed. I just don't see the big deal in why people complain about it, I mean, I understand that if someone really worked for it and then saw someone who bullshitted their way to it get it as well, they would generally be angry, but is it really needed? Maybe just make a list of 10 to 100 of the best coders on the site based on the difficulty and such of their work and how much they have contributed, this could be voted or selected by people who are established coders [Above Advanced] so that those people who do feel disgusted by the hacks that are one line changers can then still have the ego and glory that they worked for by having their name on the 'list'.