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Old 02-07-2006, 09:03 AM
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Wow! Although I'm not totally surprised this is a bit of a shock. Didn't he do the first Karma hack?
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Old 02-07-2006, 04:34 PM
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The discussion of marijuana is not illegal and was not the reason the site was shut down. The fact that the message boards were being used as a means for drug traffic was in fact the reason. Marijuana usage is illegal world wide which makes distrobution illegal regardless of ones location. If searching through the forum's PMs and logs will help hinder drug traffic then I would consider myself a supporter of the governments decision. As far as I am concerned when someone engages in illegal activity (movement of an illegal substance), their personal privacy is all but law enforcement's right.

You can find the discussion of marijuana just about anywhere you want to look (schools, movies, music) so its pretty plain that something other than "marijuana discussion" was going on.


Pretty bold statement for someone who has no idea what hes talking about. There was obviously something illegal at hand or else there would have been no intervention.
This is not nessecarily the case, the site maywell have had no involvement in any final product trafficking at all, I really fail to see how a website can be used for someone who would want a 10 buck deal now on an international website which means the trafficking going on must have been huge (again unlikley as most people would not have the land available to grow enough), if it was down to that. What should be noted is 1000s of members there and this was soemtime ago when I visited it once to look at the old karma hack in action, (I did not even know what the websites orientation was till I saw it), but hordes of those members were posting on an open website there little mini gardens, a few plants in a warddrobe etc, its inevitable at some point that a server which is gathering information from people about there illegal activities wether for personal use or not is going to get pulled by the authorities at some point and the evidence obtained will get forwarded to the relevant enforcing agencies around the world.
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Old 02-07-2006, 05:14 PM
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This is not nessecarily the case, the site maywell have had no involvement in any final product trafficking at all, I really fail to see how a website can be used for someone who would want a 10 buck deal now on an international website which means the trafficking going on must have been huge (again unlikley as most people would not have the land available to grow enough), if it was down to that. What should be noted is 1000s of members there and this was soemtime ago when I visited it once to look at the old karma hack in action, (I did not even know what the websites orientation was till I saw it), but hordes of those members were posting on an open website there little mini gardens, a few plants in a warddrobe etc, its inevitable at some point that a server which is gathering information from people about there illegal activities wether for personal use or not is going to get pulled by the authorities at some point and the evidence obtained will get forwarded to the relevant enforcing agencies around the world.
The law is the law. Buying $10 worth of pot is nothing different than buying $10,000.
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Old 02-07-2006, 05:57 PM
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The law is the law. Buying $10 worth of pot is nothing different than buying $10,000.
Lol, and a 99.9% recurring chance not to happen on a open public website when a 10$ bag is on lots of local street corners and local houses. I am not saying the law is not the law,
I am saying its just more likley to get pulled if a couple hundred thousand members are openly posting pictures and stuff of their activities as any other which is exactly what it was when I saw it a few years back, I doubt it changed much except overgrew, the agaencies will just have waited till they were in a bored moment to go an pick up the server, the longer the better for them because the more evidence on there.
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Old 02-07-2006, 07:13 PM
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Filburt,

While I agree with you in regards to the view you have with this thread it is still comments like this...
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.... and I'd appreciate some respect. The moderator status alone should convey respect, whether I'm 21 or 12.
... that show you are indeed still a "kid" when viewed by others. Respect of a position is one thing but respect of an individual is something that is to be earned, it's not an entitlement, regardless of what position or titles that person may have.
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Old 02-07-2006, 08:12 PM
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Marijuana usage is illegal world wide which makes distrobution illegal regardless of ones location.
Untrue. Alaska's constitution gives its residents the right to possess marijuana for personal use. They are allowed to have a small amount of marijuana in their homes as long as there is no intent to distribute.

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache...la020001.shtml
(cached version linked because the newspaper has started to require registration...ugh)
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Old 02-07-2006, 08:41 PM
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Untrue. Alaska's constitution gives its residents the right to possess marijuana for personal use. They are allowed to have a small amount of marijuana in their homes as long as there is no intent to distribute.

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache...la020001.shtml
(cached version linked because the newspaper has started to require registration...ugh)
While your right, your also very wrong. Marijuana is legal in very small amounts in multiple places around the United States. For example, the last vote in Denver Colorado passed a law that legalized small amounts of marijuana for possesion in the county of Denver. Does this make it legal? No. Why you might ask. Just as in Alaska, it is illegal to exchange marijuana as well as it is illegal to grow marijuana. With those two things deemed illegal, how is one suppose to obtain marijuana? The Alaskan Constitution states that it is legal for personal use, but if its illegal to grow or buy, how is one suppose to obtain the marijuana? The only legal method is through a medical facility. Therefor anyone who uses marijuana outside of the medical scope is performing an illegal act.

Secondly, we all know that federal law trumpts state law. Even if the Alaskan Constitution states that marijuana is legal, the federal judicial system still over rules making marijuana illegal throughout the entire 50 states. If you really believe that marijuana is legal in Alaska, I would encourage you to try it out sometime. Walk into the state court house with a baggie of pot. Let me know how it goes :classic:
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Old 02-07-2006, 09:25 PM
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Untrue. Alaska's constitution gives its residents the right to possess marijuana for personal use. They are allowed to have a small amount of marijuana in their homes as long as there is no intent to distribute.

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache...la020001.shtml
(cached version linked because the newspaper has started to require registration...ugh)

Thats because you have to be stoned to live there......
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Old 02-07-2006, 10:39 PM
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While your right, your also very wrong. Marijuana is legal in very small amounts in multiple places around the United States. For example, the last vote in Denver Colorado passed a law that legalized small amounts of marijuana for possesion in the county of Denver. Does this make it legal? No. Why you might ask. Just as in Alaska, it is illegal to exchange marijuana as well as it is illegal to grow marijuana. With those two things deemed illegal, how is one suppose to obtain marijuana? The Alaskan Constitution states that it is legal for personal use, but if its illegal to grow or buy, how is one suppose to obtain the marijuana? The only legal method is through a medical facility. Therefor anyone who uses marijuana outside of the medical scope is performing an illegal act.

Secondly, we all know that federal law trumpts state law. Even if the Alaskan Constitution states that marijuana is legal, the federal judicial system still over rules making marijuana illegal throughout the entire 50 states. If you really believe that marijuana is legal in Alaska, I would encourage you to try it out sometime. Walk into the state court house with a baggie of pot. Let me know how it goes :classic:
As an Alaska resident (yes I live in Atlanta but my residency is still Fairbanks, Alaska) I can tell you that I don't have to try it out. Nobody gets busted for pot unless there is something else to go along with it in Alaska (DUI, domestic violence, etc). Also, you can grow it on your property or in your residence there as well, AS LONG AS there is no intent to distribute. As far as federal trumping state law, as far as I know, Scott Thomas is still a free man. Where's the DEA, FBI, CIA trumping the Alaska constitution?

And booooo corriewf, you don't have to be stoned to live there. I lived there for 13 years. :-P
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And booooo corriewf, you don't have to be stoned to live there. I lived there for 13 years. :-P
Which further proves my theory....
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