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Old 07-25-2005, 10:38 PM
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thanks Erwin ... (as always very informative)
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:50 PM
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Erwin how do you feel about ownership of posts images posted ect?
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:52 PM
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What about gun makers? Is the death of someone their fault? Or the person who shot the gun?

Meh I think this is ridiculous.
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:54 PM
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I think everyone just wants free money. It is ridiculous when I can't read what I own because someone else typed it. Tonight I'm getting a Privacy Policy up for the future.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:24 PM
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Erwin how do you feel about ownership of posts images posted ect?
Copyright automatically belongs to the creator of the posts or images unless the right is waived either by consent or implication - again, depends on your TOS. But don't assume your members have waived their rights over their posts just because you have a TOS - they must have consented to it.

[Disclaimer: yada yada yada - you know this is not legal advice]
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:26 PM
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Copyright automatically belongs to the creator of the posts or images unless the right is waived either by consent or implication - again, depends on your TOS. But don't assume your members have waived their rights over their posts just because you have a TOS - they must have consented to it.

[Disclaimer: yada yada yada - you know this is not legal advice]
So what you are saying is that a banned member could ask for me to go and delete all of their posts and I must comply?

Also what about the images that are uploaded to the gallery section with my watermark?

Again I am asking an opinion which the keyword is opinion everyone.

Thanks Erwin.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:40 PM
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So what you are saying is that a banned member could ask for me to go and delete all of their posts and I must comply?

Also what about the images that are uploaded to the gallery section with my watermark?

Again I am asking an opinion which the keyword is opinion everyone.

Thanks Erwin.
No you needn't comply at all - If you put a disclaimer in the registration screen where you have to agree to the terms when you sign up, that you have the right to retain information stored on your server if the user breaks forum rules, then even legally they won't have a leg to stand on because they have accepted this

As long as you make it clear to people in policies they have to agree to before they can do something, you are within your own boundaries to dictate what they do

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Old 07-26-2005, 12:03 AM
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So what you are saying is that a banned member could ask for me to go and delete all of their posts and I must comply?

Also what about the images that are uploaded to the gallery section with my watermark?
Yes, you have to comply, since they own their posts and images.

But you can ask them to compensate you for your effort to delete their posts which they made on your forum, since it was they who posted/uploaded it.

I had this happen before. And I told the member that I will comply, but require the reasonable fee of $1 per post (he had a couple of hundred posts), Since I will need to split them from threads, to avoid deleting other people's copyrighted posts in those threads (cannot be done with queries to handle thread starter and quoted posts). I never heard from him again.
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:14 AM
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Actually wouldnt that only appy to those who agree to it in future registers?
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:17 AM
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So what you are saying is that a banned member could ask for me to go and delete all of their posts and I must comply?

Also what about the images that are uploaded to the gallery section with my watermark?

Again I am asking an opinion which the keyword is opinion everyone.

Thanks Erwin.
Depends on your TOS, whether it will be considered a binding contract, and whether the poster waived his rights. It's not black and white and really, the law on this is still being made as not many cases get to court.
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