vB Hacks Open

[Zachery]

I work for jelsoft, my concerns are valid

[Logikos]

Originally Posted by Link14716

The "Featuring Lockdown and ASF" thing in the header just tells me to keep away.

lol whys that Matt? Having the hack isn't illegal, either one of them Jelsoft has alot of people rather scared for some reason. But i'm still up and will continue to stay up.

[Logikos]

Originally Posted by Zachery

I work for jelsoft, my concerns are valid

What is there to be concerned about? I'm not handing zip files of vb. I'm simply supporting that wants support from vbh.

[Logikos]

Originally Posted by AN-net

wasnt vbhosting banned from this site if im not mistaken?

Yes both vbhosting and lockdown was banned from vb.org. Well acully vbhosting hasn't been officially banned 'yet'.

[FASherman]

I'm kind of excited to see how I can get Advance Super Forums working together with VB3Nuke after I release it. Imagine how powerful the two together would be? Creating subforums AND giving them a unique portal page. Much coolness.

[13th_Disciple]

community == atmosphere.. not attitude.. too much attitude here from some folks.. and others, who offer somewhat valid comments towards users asking for help sometimes end up acting like an ass the other 99% of the time..

the site looks good to me.. i ain't a stylist, per se.. but it's a bought style and it looks nice as long as it won't be found anywhere else..

the lockdown hack and vbhosting hack are probably what will influence my registering.. i have been there a couple of times to watch the site.. and it is steadily growing..

also, people speak of "all these hacking sites".. as if they are concerned they will detract from vb.org, yet they expressly support one of these sites in particular, evb.org.. because of that, it is a truly irritating hypocracy that flows through the veins of a ton of folks here.. i just renewed my license for one more year.. i can assure Jelsoft, with 100% certainty, it is NOT because of helpful people, it is not because of the community involved with vb.org.. it is solely because of the software itself.. the community here sux these days.. and the attitude, and atmosphere, here, detracts directly from what the software promotes as it's main claim.. instant community.. i never noticed hostility in the banner or on the jelsoft/vb.com site.. i reckon that's a between the lines kind of read..

i will say though, folks wanted to know a way to change that atmosphere around here in a thread within the forums under site suggestions, i think it was.. i gave a decent answer, an yet no one would even reply to the idea.. even to say it is not an option.. i reckon sometimes it's easier to ignore than it is to deal with something.. i may not have been a member here for very long, but i can asure you, it is not a place where i recommend hanging out.. it is only a place i recommend for downloading hacks and leaving..

of all of the hacks i have ever used and even so much as asked questions on, it is NTLDR that has helped me to understand what i needed to understand.. and it has only been NTLDR and his hack that has kept me using vBulletin this long.. the forums software is great.. the attitude behind those claiming community and support behind the idea suck..

[Link14716]

Originally Posted by []\[]emesis

lol whys that Matt? Having the hack isn't illegal, either one of them Jelsoft has alot of people rather scared for some reason. But i'm still up and will continue to stay up.

It has nothing to do with their legality. But linking to hacks in bright colors on every single page just because vB.org doesn't allow them is annoying. I don't agree with them not being allowed at vB.org, but that isn't the point.

Also the fact that you aren't even trying to stop pirates from being abke to access hacks just means I won't be releasing my hacks there

[Logikos]

Originally Posted by Link14716

It has nothing to do with their legality. But linking to hacks in bright colors on every single page just because vB.org doesn't allow them is annoying. I don't agree with them not being allowed at vB.org, but that isn't the point.

Also the fact that you aren't even trying to stop pirates from being abke to access hacks just means I won't be releasing my hacks there

I don't have them linked in bright colors to get back at vb.org. Its there to simply show users that we have 2 very demanding hacks that cannot be found very eaisly.

Also, you talk like these pirates are some low life kids/criminals. Guess what Matt Maybe you?ve forgotten to register WinZip after your 30 day trial has run out? Or maybe you just happened to download a MP3 file of an artist you really adore? Guess what? You?re one of those criminals who are automatically bad and should prompty disappear off the surface of the world, so we could all enjoy a happy, friendly life.

I don't support pirates or warez, but i will not turn a member away from getting supprt for something they need support for. If they have a illagal copy of vB, what can i do to stop them? Shut my site down? Do you really think that will stop them. No. They will just look eleswhere for support.

Well, let's face it, 90% of us are using some kind of illegal software (according to most computer magazines at least). Hiding/ignoring the truth isn't exactly freedom of speech, so why should we really ignore it when everyone KNOWS things are like this anyway? Of course, (almost) all professional software developers are allergic to warez for reasons, but there's really nothing that can be done about it.

People download warez/pirated software fairly easily these days, and while we will not distribute/link to warez/pirated software, I could accept that they could get talked about. For example, if someone asks for help with the 3D Studio MAX renderer because his "illegal" version always crashes when he wants to render an animation, I think we should help him out. If we just tell him that we don't accept warez/pirated software, he will most certainly leave the board and look for another one. And remember that this person is most likely not exactly a bad guy, no more evil than any of us, so what we did was to send a perfectly fine member somewhere else.

What are the chances of that "The User" will acually say he is running pirated board. What are the chances that "The User" will actually cease and desist to use warez just because we tell him that we don't allow it? I'm sure it's not the first time he has heard it, and as I already mentioned, he will just leave and look somewhere else.

Warez/Pirated Software are not going to stop unless the developers physically find a way to make software a lot more secure in general. DVD's used to be very secure until someone cracked their encryption, and it might only be a matter of time before CD Keys/Credit cards are no longer a threat to those who want to play MMO games free of charge.

In closing, not realeasing your hacks on vBh won't really stop anyone from getting priated software. The site will continue to grow, hacks will continue to be released, and the users will continue to get support. I'm not forceing you too join, or anyone in that matter. If you like the site, and or have suggetions for the site then i encourage you to join and give us a hand. I don't run the site, the users do. And i will stick to that till the end.

Sorry its a touchy subject for me, and don't take anything personal. I like everyone and hold no gruges agaist anyone and or anything.

[Logikos]

Originally Posted by 13th_Disciple

the site looks good to me.. i ain't a stylist, per se.. but it's a bought style and it looks nice as long as it won't be found anywhere else..

Hey Hey I didn't buy that style. Took me like 10 mins to do.

[Spitfireisgod]

The way you have your boards arranged reminded me of a message board I view...

...oh wait