The Ethics of Updating for VB3 a VB2 Hack That You Didn't Write

[Wayne Luke]

No, I said distributing hacks as Open Source was against the vBulletin License if they contained any code from vBulletin in them. The reason for that is because you are trying to retroactively change a license that you have no rights to change.

[Silverdawn222]

Aye, not only are implications made, but according to that reasoning most of the hacks here at VBulletin.org are illegal...

[KuraFire]

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke

No, I said distributing hacks as Open Source was against the vBulletin License if they contained any code from vBulletin in them. The reason for that is because you are trying to retroactively change a license that you have no rights to change.

Hard to say, then. VERY few people ever make a hack and specify that it's not an open source hack. And while I know that a general hack isn't necessarily open source here, it essentially becomes so if it's released outside of vB.org (which is the case for quite some hacks - and I don't mean without author's approval).

[Logician]

Originally Posted by KuraFire

so vb.org is going to be even more of a dictatorship that doesn't listen much for real to its members than it already is?

whatever, not my problem...

This has nothing to do with members' opinions or even vb.org administration. This is about law.

As filburt stated, feel free to discuss, share your opinions on the issue, get legal advice from people who know the law, but this rule is not something that will change according to member requests or even request of anybody. You may not like it, you may think it should be set in a different way but we are not the address to complain as we are not the people who set the copyright law.

It is a legal rule beyond all of us and I'm sure everybody in this community will respect what law rules.

[Erwin]

Dictatorship? Let's not be melodramatic... I am the last person to become dictator LOL!

[KuraFire]

Originally Posted by Logician

This has nothing to do with members' opinions or even vb.org administration. This is about law.

As filburt stated, feel free to discuss, share your opinions on the issue, get legal advice from people who know the law, but this rule is not something that will change according to member requests or even request of anybody. You may not like it, you may think it should be set in a different way but we are not the address to complain as we are not the people who set the copyright law.

It is a legal rule beyond all of us and I'm sure everybody in this community will respect what law rules.

I'm not really complaining, I'm just trying to say: don't enforce "the law" so strict that it becomes ridiculous here.

[g-force2k2]

Well how I feel about the whole situation is too just learn some php and create your own version, that way its your code, maybe not completely original, but put in some features that you feel would make it interesting.

I agree very strongly what Amykhar had stated.

When I first began hacking at vb.org I knew nothing, but I studied and got help and inspiration from people like Xenon, Logician, Firefly and Erwin. With help from others and taking some time to learn you can create your own work and then release your own without having worry about others saying its theirs or that it was copied.

Just some of my thoughts.

Regards,
g-force2k2

[Mr. HillBilly]

So we cant release hacks with out authors permissions, BS. If we cant contact them then the person would never be able to release the hack.


Thats just plain right stupid.

[Silverdawn222]

Agreed.

[g-force2k2]

Originally Posted by Mr. HillBilly

So we cant release hacks with out authors permissions, BS. If we cant contact them then the person would never be able to release the hack.


Thats just plain right stupid.

It's not bull++++, if you want to have a certain hack so badly then just learn some php and create it yourself using your own codes and techniques. Releasing work without the author's consent is laziness and disrespectful if you ask me. I'd like to think you'd feel the same way if you're a respected hacker who created a good amount of hacks around vb.org, only to have people, which some of them don't know exactly what to do, modifying your scripts and calling it their own. If you ask me thats bull++++.

Regards,
g-force2k2