Mini Mods - Cel User Always Online

What does it do?
This addon simply lets you define one or several users (or usergroups) that will be always shown as online in the Who's Online section and other parts of the forum.

How does it work?
It adds a cron job that updates the last activity entry in the session table for the given users. It is set to run every ten minutes. If your session length is shorter, you will need to adapt the cron job. (You can check your session timeout at AdminCP->Settings->Options->Cookies and HTTP Header Options, it needs to be more than 600, 900 is default).

How to install
Just download, upload the contents of the UPLOAD folder to your forum root, and import the product file of the addon. Then go to AdminCP->Settings->Options and enter the userid(s) of the users (or usergroup ids) you want to be always online in the Cel User Always Online section. Then the users need to log in once manually, to get things started.

Other versions of vB?
This addon should work with every Version of vB4, and most likely on vB3, too (not tested).

[webmastersun]

Originally Posted by cellarius

You need to log in every user at least once, so there is an entry in the session table that can be updated. If you don't do that, it will not work.

The cron runs every ten minutes, and you'll notice a difference only if
1) more time goes by than your normal session timeout (since after that time the user would normaly be no longer shown as currently online)
2) that user does not have any other activity during that time, since then he would be shown as currently online anyway.

I wonder how you would even tell if this addon works if you don't wait at least as long as your session timout. (But keep in mind there needs to be activity on your board for the cron to run, as explained above).

I think you should improve it to easy for users. According to me, it's rather complex for using and controlling. May be I set session time out higher than you thus I got result not as my expectation.
It is possible to have a radio button on each user profile so when we can update ( turn on/off status) to show user online immediately ? without waiting for Cron runs.

or other way to show user that don't need to wait them must not login once to forum ? ...etc

Just my ideas.

Thanks for your new version and I will update next versions and hope it will better than previous.

[cellarius]

You need to log the user in once to create a valid entry in the session table, and you need the cron to simulate user activity. And no, what you suggest is not possible - that's just not how vB works.

If it is really too much trouble for you to install this, enter some userids or usergroup ids in the AdminCP and then log in the users you want this for once, then I'm sorry. This addon does what you asked for in the other thread, in the only way possible that I can think of. If it does not meet your comfort standards, then don't use it. You can always hope someone will come up with a better idea.

I really just whipped this up to help you out. I don't even have use for this myself. (And to tell the truth, this "it's too hard to use, make it easier, do it different although I have no clue myself"-attitude reminds me of why I once decided not to do stuff like that anymore...)

[ozzy47]

Also one of the ways a user may not appear online, that logged in, and you have them set to stay logged in, is if they manually clicked on the log out button. Because what that does is remove their info from the session table, unless of course Cellarius wrote something it to prevent that, I am not sure though, as I have not looked into the code.

[cellarius]

Originally Posted by ozzy47

Also one of the ways a user may not appear online, that logged in, and you have them set to stay logged in, is if they manually clicked on the log out button. Because what that does is remove their info from the session table, unless of course Cellarius wrote something it to prevent that, I am not sure though, as I have not looked into the code.

No, I did not provide for that. If people specifically log out, then this is probably what they want to do (and it also is the way to end being permanently online).

[ozzy47]

Absolutely, I was just letting people know another reason someone may not appear as online, and try and blame the mod as not working.

[cellarius]

Originally Posted by ozzy47

Absolutely, I was just letting people know another reason someone may not appear as online, and try and blame the mod as not working.

And right you are

[webmastersun]

Originally Posted by ozzy47

Also one of the ways a user may not appear online, that logged in, and you have them set to stay logged in, is if they manually clicked on the log out button. Because what that does is remove their info from the session table, unless of course Cellarius wrote something it to prevent that, I am not sure though, as I have not looked into the code.

I think so, It may be reason why user didn't appear online

Originally Posted by cellarius

You need to log the user in once to create a valid entry in the session table, and you need the cron to simulate user activity. And no, what you suggest is not possible - that's just not how vB works.

If it is really too much trouble for you to install this, enter some userids or usergroup ids in the AdminCP and then log in the users you want this for once, then I'm sorry. This addon does what you asked for in the other thread, in the only way possible that I can think of. If it does not meet your comfort standards, then don't use it. You can always hope someone will come up with a better idea.

I really just whipped this up to help you out. I don't even have use for this myself. (And to tell the truth, this "it's too hard to use, make it easier, do it different although I have no clue myself"-attitude reminds me of why I once decided not to do stuff like that anymore...)

I thought it can be easier but no, it depends on vB works, I see that and appreciated your efforts although it's in beta version.

I thought have a better way without using cron job and session, just creating a tick button in user profile to update their status immediately and show them on forum home. But if it's impossible with the way vB works then I can accept that.

For me, a great add-on is easy in using and full functions what a user needs and can run well on all versions or their configurations.

I see because this is only your beta version.

Thanks Cellarius!

[cellarius]

Once again: Since the session is the thing that vB determines by whether a user is currently online or not, you can't do it without sessions. Just as you can't show threads without the thread table or posts without the posts table. Like it or not.

So, I'm sorry this does not qualify as a great addon on your scale, but I can live with that. Sadly I have to work with what vB makes possible, not what you wish for. You can always file a suggestion in JIRA, and good luck with that.

Adding a button in the profile to do what the cronjob does for a single user would not be that hard. But what I really can't follow is why you'd rather click on a button in every user's profile every 15 minutes than to have that done automatically with a cronjob, but hey - each to his own I guess. Do you have partners to click through the nightshifts?

Anyway, I still find your attitude extremly annoying. If there was someone out there who coded a perfectly working addon for free on my request, I would surely not continously post that I felt it was too complicated, not comfortable enough and done the wrong way.

And now, just when you're finally forcing yourself to at least "appreciate the effort" and mutter a "thank you", you can't resist to state that you can perfectly understand why it is "only beta" and really not a great addon. As I said before, its miserable figures like you that make coders think twice before offering help.

Just for the record: This addon is no longer beta, and from now on, is (really) unsupported - maybe I'll do bugfixing if a bug in current functionality should be found. It is what it is now, and will not be improved upon. It works as it is, so take it or leave it.

[webmastersun]

Originally Posted by cellarius

Once again: Since the session is the thing that vB determines by whether a user is currently online or not, you can't do it without sessions. Just as you can't show threads without the thread table or posts without the posts table. Like it or not.

So, I'm sorry this does not qualify as a great addon on your scale, but I can live with that. Sadly I have to work with what vB makes possible, not what you wish for. You can always file a suggestion in JIRA, and good luck with that.

Adding a button in the profile to do what the cronjob does for a single user would not be that hard. But what I really can't follow is why you'd rather click on a button in every user's profile every 15 minutes than to have that done automatically with a cronjob, but hey - each to his own I guess. Do you have partners to click through the nightshifts?

Anyway, I still find your attitude extremly annoying. If there was someone out there who coded a perfectly working addon for free on my request, I would surely not continously post that I felt it was too complicated, not comfortable enough and done the wrong way.

And now, just when you're finally forcing yourself to at least "appreciate the effort" and mutter a "thank you", you can't resist to state that you can perfectly understand why it is "only beta" and really not a great addon. As I said before, its miserable figures like you that make coders think twice before offering help.

Just for the record: This addon is no longer beta, and from now on, is (really) unsupported - maybe I'll do bugfixing if a bug in current functionality should be found. It is what it is now, and will not be improved upon. It works as it is, so take it or leave it.

Exactly and of course, everyone is always to find a new & better way for them and the same to me, I will use new add-on if it suits my requirements better yours. But at this time, no more add ons on vB can do better than yours thus I will still use yours although it's not as my expectation

[Nirjonadda]

Please can you try add option "How many time show user online" If member does not come back this period than goes to auto offline. Also add option Enable Mod on/off.