vbulletins policys are just like the american government.. always trying to censer our freedoms. I paid for a software that censers me. thats bull++++. where the ++++ are the software heads? out planing more ways to kill freedom as we know it? ++++ing terriost.
To everyone that thinks they should beable to view passwords, and doesn't want to be censered by the vbulletin freedom haters, please go to this thread I made on vbulletin.com and voice your opinion.
We paid for a software, we should have total control of it.
You do have total control of it. If you do not likepassword encryption, then just hack it out of the code. You can also hack in a password generator and have the new passwords emailed to your members. This is all entirely within your control. There's not a single person in the world who can stop you from doing this.
By the way you efforts at branding Jelsoft as 'censors' are ridiculous. You clearly have no understanding of the word.
@ king sting - I certainly hope that nobody bothers to go to http://www.illstylez.com/board/ and PM's or email's your members there with copies of your posts about wanting to get their passwords.
Then again, it's probably all right with you, eh - anything else would be censorship!
There is no good reason to have a users password - unless you want to either log in and pretend to be them in a post, (Very unethical!) or you want to see if the same password works works in other sites or locations. (More than just a little unethical!)
Any information that you can get as a logged in user is available to you, if you take the time to learn how to access the database.
Originally posted by king sting what? how come? so your telling me i paid for a software I dont have total control of? thats ++++ing bull++++ in my eyes... all these realeases and ++++ they wont give me a older verison? even after I already paid for it? what hell nah.. I think this feature needs to be put into the admin cp.. its our boards and we have to pay for the right to use vbulletin, how we run our boards is up to us, not the software heads at vbulletin.
I ++++ing demand something is done about this.
It's very clear that you dont have any knowledge about internet security nor intentions of the developers about securing the passwords in the database. All good software secure passwords because they can be exploited by people other than Site Admins. Your hosting company's/isp's people can get them, someone who hacks your board can get them, hackers watching the internet can get them while you backup your database and in the end it's your boards passwords that will be revealed and it's you your members would accuse even if these wouldnt be your fault.
By securing the passwords in the database Jelsoft saves YOU and your users from the trouble and from this point of view you have no rights to complain about "paying money to them", its these security features you are (at least should be) paying for this software. If you are Winoows XP user, go complain to Microsoft too, because they are using the same mechanism for all passwords (user etc.) in the software..
It's never aimed to hide passwords from Site Admins. And in fact Site Admins can still get user's passwords if they want to, but dont ask me the way, I have no intentions of telling you how..
Originally posted by king sting I think this is stupid. Its just a simple request and no one wants to help me with it just because you people think its unmoral or something?
Someone just tell me please.
Why dont you tell us why you want to get the passwords? What good and legal use they can be used for? I really wonder..
Originally posted by king sting does it matter what I want them for? no it doesn't.
himm let me put it in this way: If you are asking the answer from me, yes it matters to me (and apperantly to the other contributers of this thread), because we dont want to help an Admin who might try to get user's passwords so as to hack into their other accounts in other boards, their personal pages or their email accounts. I cant see another reason as to why an Admin will try to get this info.
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thats my business.
sure it is .. And people's willing to help you is their business then..
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Whats with all this debate over it?
I dont debate.. You asked why people does not help and I'm stating why..