A Honest to Good Aggravated Criticism of Paid Modifications for vBulletin (Essay)

[AdrianH]

If you want everything free or on the cheap use SMF or phpbb for your forum and you won't have to pay anything.

Why is it you spend so much time moaning about the state of things and your perception of other peoples failures in the world of vB?

[cheat-master30]

Why should we not use a decent piece of software that's well worth the cost just because we don't want to pay for modifications? Just because we paid for vBulletin doesn't mean we want to pay for pretty much everything else to go with vBulletin, since people here already have to pay for hosting and what not...

[noppid]

Originally Posted by cheat-master30

Why should we not use a decent piece of software that's well worth the cost just because we don't want to pay for modifications? Just because we paid for vBulletin doesn't mean we want to pay for pretty much everything else to go with vBulletin, since people here already have to pay for hosting and what not...

That is called the price of doing business. If someone is not in it for the money, they should use open source free software.

Sorry, but while helping with a few lines of code in a thread is something some of us have time for, coding and maintaining a complete add on modification is something that only kids might have time for. And the point there is when it's free, you get what you pay for modification wise.

Take a look around. The mods here do no quality control and when someone steps up and does do a quality control post, it's ignored. Think about it, a cool idea does not guarantee good code. Once again, you get what you pay for.

[The Geek]

So others should work to produce you code for free because you paid vB a license payment?

Code some of these mods that should be free and support them. Then you could easily stand there and criticise others not doing it too.

[cheat-master30]

Originally Posted by The Geek

So others should work to produce you code for free because you paid vB a license payment?

Code some of these mods that should be free and support them. Then you could easily stand there and criticise others not doing it too.

So basically, Let's See you do better? That's not an argument, that's a logical fallacy, people do not have to be an expert in the field to offer their own opinion on the subject or criticise it. From a site I go to:

There is a common misconception among fans (and people having worked in a particular field) that you have to personally be an expert on something before offering your own opinion on a particular work. It helps, but it's certainly not required. Whenever an ordinary fan calls out another person to try their hand at something (making a film, creating a videogame, or writing a book) before criticizing it, that person has lost the argument.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...bert%27s%20Law

Secondly, I actually know what supporting or releasing a modification is like, amazingly enough (*Points to profile and user title*)

Originally Posted by noppid

That is called the price of doing business. If someone is not in it for the money, they should use open source free software.

So if you're not using a computer for the money... and if you're not using Windows for the money you should Linux? Seriously, think arguments through before suggesting something that basically says no one should ever use any paid software or goods in their life if they don't want to make money with them...

Sorry, but while helping with a few lines of code in a thread is something some of us have time for, coding and maintaining a complete add on modification is something that only kids might have time for. And the point there is when it's free, you get what you pay for modification wise.

Considering Media Wiki, Coppermine Gallery or Wordpress, I'd say the 'get what you pay for' argument died with the recent internet. Then compare vBulletin to software many hundreds of times more expensive, and vBulletin does better.

Take a look around. The mods here do no quality control and when someone steps up and does do a quality control post, it's ignored. Think about it, a cool idea does not guarantee good code. Once again, you get what you pay for.

So? vBulletin.org is a free resource for modifications, if there aren't free modifications, then there's no point to this entire website. And I know a cool idea doesn't guarantee good code. But having the OPTION, there's nothing wrong with that, and if you want to take one product or whatever over enough based on code quality, that's your decision.

[noppid]

All I said is that you get what you pay for and free is rarely good. Nothing more.

Choose wisely.

But don't complain. If you want better, pay.

Use this place with that in mind and we'll all be fine.

Wordpress is free ... extensions and work for it is not... you break a lot of other stupid laws just by providing wordpress in your list... example: you want a good theme for wordpress, you pay for it; http://www.woothemes.com/ ...

when you buy vBulletin, there is NO STATEMENT written or even said that something else was provided for free... actually, ALL the extended services from Jelsoft are PAID too. support, addons, phone support, even the installation cost half of the software price... did you ever asked Jelsoft why they charged for an installation that takes 3 minutes ???

the problem with your entire thread is that you give not a single argument for releasing free stuff instead of charge for it...

[Dean C]

I still can't believe the OP is arguing his case. There is no argument here. Go get yourself a wife, kids, and pay for education, and then try and release your mods for free and support them in between supporting your family, and having an education

I hate to play the age card, but you are sounding really naive here...

[noppid]

Originally Posted by Dean C

I still can't believe the OP is arguing his case. There is no argument here. Go get yourself a wife, kids, and pay for education, and then try and release your mods for free and support them in between supporting your family, and having an education

I hate to play the age card, but you are sounding really naive here...

haha

I have enjoyed watching your transformation. Interesting stuff that reality and maturity?

I remember a day... Aw never mind.

[Dean C]

Originally Posted by noppid

haha

I have enjoyed watching your transformation. Interesting stuff that reality and maturity?

I remember a day... Aw never mind.

We've all been a young whipper snapper once, but unlike some when I didn't have the Benjamins to pay for these so-called overpriced add-ons, I put my mind to better use and made people pay me to make them, instead of making ridiculous and uneducated rants on public forums.