Sending of Hacks to the Graveyard

[deezelpope]

Originally Posted by odonel

The answer is clear people, vb will eventually charge us for these hacks. I bet you it is because they want a share of the pie. Unfair practice by the bigman as always. The posted hacks are optional to users. Why else would they removed them ? As good as VB is, it is nothing without these free hacks. I guess I better start looking for another alternative...VB should create their own hacks to replace the ones that they feel that are harmful...these hacks make your product better.....

free the hacks VB....

Rubbish...utter rubbish!

[Clayton]

finding a solution to the problems are number one, which should be always be the aim

however

as mentioned by microhellas, you don't find vBulletin sending out an email to all their users, when they find a vulnerability, to uninstall their software. They work to first find a solution.

to see how an email was sent out to all the users of Microhellas' hacks before finding a solution with the author was (imo) irresponsible and it has led to a valid contributor now making her hacks unavailable to the users of vb.org

I can see her point, the email sent out creates alarm (which from a business point of view for her is plain destructive) and causes the users of her products to get the impression that there is something inferior or wrong with her products

in this instance a solution was easily found by the author and this whole scenario could have been avoided

hopefully those involved can learn from this

Thank you everyone for working to provide a service of value to all users

[King Kovifor]

It is recommended that you remove a hack because it isn't the product. If you still want to continue using the hack at the risk of an exploit, it's your own choice.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by Clayton

10 months after 522 installs we now have a vulnerability

There is no "we now have " about it - the vulnerability has always been there, it's only now been reported to us. There is a big difference there.

[Clayton]

Originally Posted by King Kovifor

It is recommended that you remove a hack because it isn't the product. If you still want to continue using the hack at the risk of an exploit, it's your own choice.

I wont get involved in petty arguments, each person has something valid to represent

At the end of the day vBulletin is also still a product and the information gathered by the forums on my servers is our property. To protect this property from exploits is no different

when exploits are found with vBulletin they do not send out an email to all their users telling them to uninstall.

all I am saying is that this could have been dealt with differently

Originally Posted by Paul M

There is no "we now have " about it - the vulnerability has always been there, it's only now been reported to us. There is a big difference there.

Hi Paul, this I understand

the timing was what I questioned

I voice my concerns regarding microhellas, it is not an attack on any party in any way but more a hope of avoiding similar scenarios in the future

I am thankful for the work done by vB.org however there are often many ways to skin a cat

i like this thread... a similar one was started by my friend Hambil 2 weeks ago, and 3 weeks ago too, with the same reasons, same debate, and same result... (none)...

so it would be just time you stop complaining and start repairing your bugs when you have some...it usually take less than 1hour to do so, and then your releases go back to public...

and if you are not happy with the policies, instead of complaining, because it's useless, these are made to be unchanged because they work, you can simply release your work elsewhere better... (if you find a better place, just tell me, i'd be happy to start complaining there also!)

[MaryTheG(r)eek]

Originally Posted by Dismounted

I'd rather have no hacks than a board defaced by hackers.
Dismounted

I apologize if I misunderstood it, but are you calling us hackers????

[deezelpope]

Noooo, he's not saying that at all. I believe he's saying that he would rather have a board with zero modifications, rather than have a board that was defaced by hackers due to exploited modifications or modifications with security issues.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Originally Posted by MicroHellas

I apologize if I misunderstood it, but are you calling us hackers????

Huh?

Are you defacing other peoples websites?

If the answer is "Yes" then, yes he is calling you a hacker.

[MaryTheG(r)eek]

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden

Huh?

Are you defacing other peoples websites?

If the answer is "Yes" then, yes he is calling you a hacker.

Funny!! That's why I wrote "I apologize etc etc". I don't know the meaning of "deface". I got the meaning of "full of" as the other member wrote above.