Not sure you wanna know!

[totenmaske]

I've used many free Mods from here (thanks coders!) as well as incorporating some paid Mods into my boards. I'm just grateful to have a resource as plentiful as this...some BBoard systems you can't even hardly pay for custom Mods or even request free or paid help as there just aren't enough resources available. At least with vB you generally have a shot at finding what you are looking for...

[Slyfox1]

As per usual those whom have the most to loose start with personal, flaming and generally rude replies.

Rather than read the post and take out the parts that you feel are wrong, take a look around. It seems I'm not the only one with this thought...

Is it any wonder other sites are blooming whilst this wallows in the bottomless pit?

[Kirk Y]

Aside from vBHackers -- which I would hardly say is "blooming", I've yet to come across any websites that perform as vB.org does.

[ubblite]

Originally Posted by Slyfox1

As per usual those whom have the most to loose start with personal, flaming and generally rude replies.

I noticed that right away, too.

Originally Posted by Slyfox1

Rather than read the post and take out the parts that you feel are wrong, take a look around. It seems I'm not the only one with this thought...

I agree with this part as well - it seems that a few posters in this thread haven't taken the time to actually read it and then proceed to make inaccurate comments.

Originally Posted by Slyfox1

Is it any wonder other sites are blooming whilst this wallows in the bottomless pit?

Well, I don't exactly agree with this. I believe this site is still a very valuable resource, but could be better & I think some of are discussing how that can happen in this thread.

[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by Slyfox1

As per usual those whom have the most to loose start with personal, flaming and generally rude replies.

Rather than read the post and take out the parts that you feel are wrong, take a look around. It seems I'm not the only one with this thought...

Is it any wonder other sites are blooming whilst this wallows in the bottomless pit?

You grin and bare it. There are many people who have their pet grievances on certain areas of the site whether it's getting support or otherwise.

I'll be the scapegoat to enduce this thread getting closed. Get up off your arse and figure the problem out, I have done and many other people have done. Branding everyone with the same iron is being disrespectful, judging by your low postcount you haven't contributed here and judging by your attitude your never likely to either.

Your time to shine is over, and like dean c stated, noone owes you jack sh*t.

[ubblite]

@Shelley_c:

If a moderator closes this thread it will get lost in the archives & another one will pop up shortly, in part because it will basically be lost as many people aren't going to scan the database for a related topic when normally it would be on the first 3 pages or so. To close this thread would be a mistake, at least combine it with this thread if for some bizarre reason a mod feels it should be closed.

[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by ubblite

@Shelley_c:

If a moderator closes this thread it will get lost in the archives & another one will pop up shortly, in part because it will basically be lost as many people aren't going to scan the database for a related topic when normally it would be on the first 3 pages or so. To close this thread would be a mistake, at least combine it with this thread if for some bizarre reason a mod feels it should be closed.

Of course your right.

mainly the people who replied (contributors) are giving sly good advice and at the same time justifying themselves when they don't need to. If there's something wrong with the people (community of this site) they help to much and go out of their way to help people, even people like sly1.

Like I said, low postcount and going back to what brad said (to many people having their hands in the cookie jar).

[Slyfox1]

Originally Posted by Shelley_c

You grin and bare it. There are many people who have their pet grievances on certain areas of the site whether it's getting support or otherwise.

I'll be the scapegoat to enduce this thread getting closed. Get up off your arse and figure the problem out, I have done and many other people have done. Branding everyone with the same iron is being disrespectful, judging by your low postcount you haven't contributed here and judging by your attitude your never likely to either.

Your time to shine is over, and like dean c stated, noone owes you jack sh*t.

Shelley,

Your comments read similar to others that have posted, and I'm not in the habit of flaming people so I'll show a level of restraint, expecially when you take your parting comments into consideration.

To addres what appears to be your only negative towards me, my low post count, is it any wonder?

I don't know or understand coding, but have the mental intelect to be able to manipulate certains parts. But there are things, a good deal of things that are out of my control.

I also recall making reference to "at one point" the level of help/support shown by this site. But can you say within the last month this is the case?

Again, rather than read 2 or 3 of the posts within this topic, read them all, at least then the comments you make won't mimic that of others and may mean your contribution to this topics will help rather than hinder.

The "goal" of this post was to see if there was in fact activity here, and express the views (be it right or wrong) of a new vB member. As I stated before, read the words and understand where there coming from, rather than making assumptions...

Sly

[sabret00the]

This is an interesting thread, i especially found it interesting where it was noted some people would like to be paid for their hard work. you know at vb.org you can easily pay the coder in kind via for example helping out with minor issues in a release thread or if a hack is actually bringing in traffic or helping you in a major way it wouldn't hurt to pm them for their paypal address. ultimately i'm finally about to upgrade my site and as a result i have a couple hacks that are ready to be released such as the groups commune (blatant plug), however i know that with it's release will come feature requests, bug reports and all types of other time consuming stuff, not to mention i'd personally like to recode it anyhoo. coding is very time consuming, supporting hacks/modifications is even more so and ultimately it does not pay at all. you get people +++++ing because an unrequired phrase is missing and talking about professionalism, it's a joke sometimes.

all in all, i try and help as much as possible. i try and help more in the coding forums but the system isn't very accessible to me and the type of help i'm able to give in short amounts of time, i've pleaded on several occasions to improve that and my requests fall in death ears. i do not want to help someone asking about css because it's not my forte and i'll probably give bad advice, i do not want to do vBulletin option/plugin help because i'm not running the latest version. I can however give advice on PHP related problems all day long.

As for in a hack thread, if i have the time to sort out problems i will, if not i can't, i guess there should be a global switch to turn the support tick off. all in all everyone has to remember that with the maturity of this community the needs of the coders have changed, most of the core group of coders have grown up, some have moved on and some are still here, however i think 90% have more responsibilities than 2/3 years ago and while it was nice to be able to sponge and spend copious amounts of freetime in dedication to mods and stuff then, it's just not like that now, we have bills, the efforts we make are great ones no matter how minor they seem on the outside.

[Kirk Y]

Originally Posted by Slyfox1

I also recall making reference to "at one point" the level of help/support shown by this site. But can you say within the last month this is the case?

Here is a list of nearly all the thread in which I've helped someone in the past 2 weeks:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=124424 - How to Show Thread Preview on Mousover of Thread Title, instead of Threadbit Cell
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=124502 - User Couldn't Get Forum Images to Show
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=124359 - Helped with a Malformed Conditional
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=124022 - Phrase Help
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123652 - Member wanted to show Thread Date instead of Thread Preview
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123961 - Getting rid of the Latest Version Available
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123097 - Conditional Help
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123642 - Changing the Calendar "Present Day" Color
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123691 - Fixing Forum Title
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123630 - Helped Member Fix a Broken Upgrade to 3.6.0
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123598 - More Conditional Help
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123580 - This guy wanted a New Thread button next to New Reply
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123544 - Hiding Information from Certain Usergroups
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=123397 - Helped this guy sort out his Posbit

These aren't even half of all the Threads that I've offered help to members; and on top of all these, I've also released a few Mods. And I'm not alone in this -- I've only been a member here for a little over a year, there are people here who've been doing this since 2003.