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#31
05-15-2006, 01:25 AM
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If Jump's modifications are archived or soft deleted they should be restored, that's only right.
It was far less than 24 hours. I've seen hacks sit for weeks with attachments removed before they were removed. Also, who died?? LOL 
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#32
05-15-2006, 01:34 AM
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Okay, now let me get this straight. There's tension here, JumpD decides to take his (very popular) hacks down, but leave the support threads up for the benefit of his current users. (Allow me to add that JumpD consistently does a great job of supporting his hacks, answering nearly every question with calm attention.) Those threads were invaluable to me, and I'd review them regularly. To learn.
Less than 12 hours later, a mod deletes all of these threads. Without JumpD's request or knowledge. Yes, I know that vB.org "policy" is that hack threads with no attachments be removed after a certain period of time to to quell confusion. But that "period of time" sure as hell is a lot longer than a few hours. C'mon, the mod who removed these threads has an axe to grind, and his own ego to boost. He's trying to show JumpD that he's "the man." Or he's just not thinking. His actions insult the coder, and remove a valuable community resource (the threads themselves, and effectively, the coder as well.) It's disgraceful and immature behavior. I'm new here and this is really pissing me off. I spent a lot of money for vBulletin, strictly because of what this community had to offer. More importantly, I spend many, many, many hours a day obsessing over my forum and my community, administering and improving it, and this forum gives me the tools to make that time count. It impacts my business and it impacts my "real life." There are mods here who are destroying that fabric with their silly, high school-like antics. I expect forum mods (especially at a forum filled with other forum mods) to be able to take a step back, and look at situations from a macro level. Deal with these issues with patience and consistency. And not react with a knee-jerk on the "delete" button because a coder (or in this case, many coders) is having a bad day. The thread deletion here was an act of retaliation, not forum moderation. We're not stupid, and this is absurd. And Boofo, seriously, enough with the winks.
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#33
05-15-2006, 01:45 AM
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The threads being deleted was nothing more than a moderator doing their job. No staff member has a vendetta against JumpD, and we wouldn't delete threads just to "get back" at someone. I can understand that you're upset, but JumpD removed his hacks on his free will:
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#34
05-15-2006, 01:47 AM
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All you nice folks that are sending me PM's. You must assume they are reading them so don't get yourselves marked.
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#35
05-15-2006, 01:49 AM
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I think all of this is ridiculous! Freestyelez made a good point. No one here deserves more respect than anyone else...you earn it...and alot of you coders are fast losing my respect. You all need to come down off your high horses and get a reality check...the only people you are hurting are yourselves and the average user (who by the way probably doesn't have the money to pay for your hacks if they wanted to).
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#36
05-15-2006, 01:55 AM
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12 hours? Please. We're not idiots. Please keep in mind we all run forums ourselves and know all about the tightrope involved. Please address this situation with respect to our intelligence. And why in the world is it their "job" to delete these threads, anyway? I still have every single one of JumpD's hacks installed, and relied on reviewing the notes in those threads to learn more. I asked and answered questions and I'd like to reference them now. If you're so concerned about confusing future users with a hack thread that has no attachment, why not CLOSE / LOCK the thread instead? To delete them entirely is absurd.
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#37
05-15-2006, 02:02 AM
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Tralala,
None of the threads deleted are deleted forever, they are just sent to a "recycle bin." As I mentioned before, if JumpD wants the threads restored...it can be done.
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#38
05-15-2006, 02:07 AM
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 Requiring JumpD to "request that his threads be restored" (after they were deleted a mere 12 hours after he removed the attachments!) is a bush-league move. You make it like this is some sort of "policy" when it fact, it's clear to me it's just a move of oneupmanship. Admit the threads were deleted prematurely, and undelete them. JumpD shouldn't have to "ask" for that, he's already stated publicly they were deleted without his knowledge. He's pissed off, and understandably so, and putting the ball in his court to "make the request" is just immature ego-tripping.
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#39
05-15-2006, 02:13 AM
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People should be allowed a break if they don't feel they are being treated with respect.
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#40
05-15-2006, 02:15 AM
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JumpD's got attention because of the current climate. This is not "business as usual" and anyone following along can see that clearly. You're telling me it's the mod's job to delete attachment-less hack threads and all the hundreds of posts of valuable information and support, and it's okay for them to do so a mere 12 hours after the attachment has been taken down? If that's the case, the "job" needs to be reviewed. This harms the users and the community too. I contributed to those threads too, still have those hacks installed, and would like to review the information there. If JumpD never came back, then I'm denied that information forever? That's stupid. Some of his threads had thousands of posts! LOCK the threads if you want, but don't DELETE them. It's an absurd move. You embarrass yourself by defending it.
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