Regarding the vBHosting Hack

[Thanatos]

Originally Posted by Dark_Wizard

I may be able to help out on this as one of my sites is a lawyers firm...let me see if they will do me a favor....I'll get back to you as quickly as possible.

Yes..EvB said they would remove hacks at jelsoft's request..so, hacks like lockdown or this hack would be banned from there as well...so yes, we need a site with more backbone.

[Dark_Wizard]

Originally Posted by JohnXWA

Could someone e-mail me thie vBHosting hack? [email removed]

Not for live use, I manage sub forums directly (I don't like handing out admin rights even over sub forums) I just wanna see whatthe fuss is about.

Thanks

I think after all this a few of us would really like to see this hack but I doubt you will get it at least here....the author already stated he won't send it...if you do get it let me know I'm curious as well.

[Dark_Wizard]

Originally Posted by Miratos

Yes..EvB said they would remove hacks at jelsoft's request..so, hacks like lockdown or this hack would be banned from there as well...so yes, we need a site with more backbone.

I didn't know that...

[]\[]emesis -> how much do you want for vbhacks.us?

[FASherman]

Originally Posted by JohnXWA

Could someone e-mail me thie vBHosting hack? [email removed]

Not for live use, I manage sub forums directly (I don't like handing out admin rights even over sub forums) I just wanna see whatthe fuss is about.

Thanks

See it live here: http://www.vbulletinmods.com

[Thanatos]

Don't think he is selling it now DW ...think he is looking for help setting up the site...I pledged to help..but am no hacker...can only help with admin/mod/finances.

[twoseven]

Originally Posted by Miratos

Yes..EvB said they would remove hacks at jelsoft's request..so, hacks like lockdown or this hack would be banned from there as well...so yes, we need a site with more backbone.

i didn't realize that. my ignorance. and vb.nl removed them as well. guess we do need another board. i hate to see it but it may be required.

[SpeedStreet]

Originally Posted by FASherman

Didn't the guy from EVB say that he'd remove hacks at Jelsoft's request? I think we need a little more spine than that.

One other question. Is there a lawyer around who can help the site owner set up the site in a way to avoid personal liability?

Personal Liabililty can only be avoided in the instance of the foundation of articles of incorporation, or the development into a Limited Liability Partnership.

I really don't think you understand the ramifications of what you think you are trying to do FASherman.

YOU DO NOT OWN YOUR COPY OF VBULLETIN. You are merely the purchaser of a license allowing you to run that specific copy on one server, one domain in one instance. You retain no legal rights whatsoever to modify, alter, change, dispose of or replicate the code in any way, shape or form with Jelsoft's implied or direct consent. It would be *VER* easy for Jelsoft to add some verbiage into the existing licensing agreement stating that any code modifications to their software package are only availible for distribution from their own, controlled websites. This is their right when dealing with Intelectual Domain in the International Copyright Theater.

I decided (in the OODLES of free time I seem to have when I neglect my work) to do some further research into International Copyright law regarding Licensing Agreements, and I'm sorry to say that JelSoft does retain the right under certain conditions to modify the existing licensing agreement and enforce it retroactively on existing clients and license holders. The letter of the law is written to protect the authors, not the customer...as it should be.

Don't sit here and try to stage a little coup. Up until this point, there have been two hacks in dispute, and now everyone is talking about leaving the site....That's great. Let's splinter the community even further so even less can get done.

Without a centralized hub for modifiers, vBulletin will fall by the wayside. Hacks will become more poorly written, you'll have to check five or six sites to get what you want...and those that do not pay for vBulletin will then have access to that which sets our sites apart from theirs.

Think about what you are doing, and please drop it.

[SpeedStreet]

Originally Posted by JohnXWA

Could someone e-mail me thie vBHosting hack? [email removed]

Not for live use, I manage sub forums directly (I don't like handing out admin rights even over sub forums) I just wanna see whatthe fuss is about.

Thanks

No requests of this nature wil be honored. And I wish people would stop contacting me privately about this as well.

[SpeedStreet]

Oh hey, check this out:

http://www.vbulletinmods.com/

Its amazing damage you can do with a bit of MyIE2 + Copy and Paste...

Seven forums in 30 seconds. Imagine what someone you banned from the site can do by logging in in the middle of the night under a different IP could do...

[JohnXWA]

FASherman, thanks for the heads up but it won't let me register at this time. If you could send me the hack though i'd apprecaite it.

SpeedStreet, thats fair enough but just cuz you won't does not mean others won't.

Thanks