the version effect

[Paul M]

If "3.1" is so different that all hacks have to be re-done, then I think many people simply won't bother upgrading straight away (unless there is a really compelling reason). There is no point in dropping all your current custom features just for a few new bells & whistles.

[Rick Sample]

Originally Posted by Paul M

If "3.1" is so different that all hacks have to be re-done, then I think many people simply won't bother upgrading straight away (unless there is a really compelling reason). There is no point in dropping all your current custom features just for a few new bells & whistles.

Very well said I think the VB developers need to rethink this and maybe come up with a better solution that will still allow vb 3.0.X styles and hacks!

[twoseven]

Originally Posted by Rick Sample

Very well said I think the VB developers need to rethink this and maybe come up with a better solution that will still allow vb 3.0.X styles and hacks!

they are moving to a more hack friendly setup thats why they are developing another ver more oop(object oriented programming). which means its better for us hackers/coders/molesters of the source. i wont upgrade right away but will have it in use on my dev board the day it comes out

[Rick Sample]

Originally Posted by twoseven

they are moving to a more hack friendly setup thats why they are developing another ver more oop(object oriented programming). which means its better for us hackers/coders/molesters of the source. i wont upgrade right away but will have it in use on my dev board the day it comes out

Yeah, I understand perfectly, but VB is somewhat becoming almost like Microsoft in a way lol. I personally think they should spend some time and do a lot of testing instead of just releasing version after version for minor upgrades and security breaches like Microsoft does all the time! VB 3 just came out, I say give that a few years, then do a major upgrade so they can have all that extra time developing and testing the new version!

[twoseven]

they are doing that already why do you think we havent seen the next release yet. maybe someday they will make it so there are only security updates and it bloats upto 100megs of php so then it can be more like ms auto updating the software weather its needed or not.
but back on topic i wouldnt expect the next ver out till atleast the fall at earliest maybe even '06. so just because they said they are dev a new ver doesnt mean they will release it overnight or within the first couple years of vb3

[The Geek]

I cant think of a better written bit of code than vB3.

Nothing is perfect - but they have done a kick ass job so far. Therefore I trust in what they will end up doing in the future.
I think its the next logical step for them to move forward. Better coupling of hacks with a unified framework will only make hacks easier to install, upgrade and maintain (along with upgrading vb itself). I cant see any negatives behind this.

Yes, I will hold off upgrading until I can safely port my hacks over - but I have a feeling it wont take too long.

[Dean C]

Originally Posted by The Geek

I cant think of a better written bit of code than vB3.

You obviously haven't seen much code then heh

[deathemperor]

I don't know if they are upgrading to 3.1, vb.com is currently down +_+

[The Geek]

Originally Posted by Dean C

You obviously haven't seen much code then heh

Seen enough to drive a man insane. Sure its not perfect - there isnt any software that is. However After countelss hourse shifting about hacking vb - I can honestly say its the cleanest lot of web software for the scope and scale it is that I have come across (and that says something).

[filburt1]

Originally Posted by The Geek

Seen enough to drive a man insane. Sure its not perfect - there isnt any software that is. However After countelss hourse shifting about hacking vb - I can honestly say its the cleanest lot of web software for the scope and scale it is that I have come across (and that says something).

Not that it's bad, but I have seen better code. vB uses some hack techniques to get the job done (and the documentation is atrocious, although that's supposed to be vastly improved in 3.1), but then again, some of those techniques may be necessary to keep the code fast as opposed to clean.