After using it for 20 seconds, this is the best IDE ever

[Dark_Wizard]

Hmmm...looks interesting, even though I love my EditPlus I may take a look at this. Thanks for the info!

[Alan @ CIT]

We've been using Zend Studio for a while now and it fits our needs very well, but I'm downloading TruStudio now to take a look. Never hurts to look

Thanks,
Alan.

[Zero Tolerance]

Originally Posted by filburt1

Notepad doesn't:
1. Indent automatically
2. Apply syntax coding
3. Show line numbers
4. Use 4-space tabs

All of the above are unacceptable. If you had said practically any other IDE, I would have agreed with you that it's your preference and that whatever you want to use is fine, but Notepad is a total, putrid, piece of crap for anything except taking...simple text notes.

Very true, it doesn't do all of those things .. automatically.

1. Just press the tab button
2. I prefer to write everything from scratch, i don't learn anything if a program is doing it for me.
3. Hit ctrl+g, shows you the line number your currently on
4. Press the space bar 4 - times

Call me old fasioned but i never liked programs doing it all for me, personally i see it as cheating and just straight lazy, and 1 major thing is the syntax coloring that these programs apply, made to make everything "easy" and will point out errors like missing a quotation from a string, to me debugging is part of programming, and the more practice i get, the better, but letting the program do it for me? Well, i just don't like that at all.

However everyone has their own opinion on things, and i can't make anyone go against there own, say mine or there's is better, because opinion is neither true or false.

- Zero Tolerance

[filburt1]

1. It does not make you more skilled to press the TAB key on new lines, it is just more work for you.
2. I meant syntax coloring; I do agree that, when learning a language, you should not use code generation tools, but when you are very advanced in the language, it can become a timesaver. I use Dreamweaver and know a great deal of XHTML and CSS, and it's just not practical for me to type all the code by hand--although I spend most of my time in the Code view.
3. I find it more convenient to see all of the line numbers at-a-glance.
4. You've got to be kidding me...

I respect your opinion, but I mean really.

edit: remember, no offense for any of this, it's just my very strong opinion.

[Dean C]

It's your opinion of course, but I just can't see how any programmer can live without those features nowadays. The only thing you're cheating is yourself as it doesn't make you a better programmer just because you use notepad. All it'll mean is a decrease in productivity as it'll take you longer to debug

[Dark_Wizard]

Originally Posted by Dean C

It's your opinion of course, but I just can't see how any programmer can live without those features nowadays. The only thing you're cheating is yourself as it doesn't make you a better programmer just because you use notepad. All it'll mean is a decrease in productivity as it'll take you longer to debug

agreed...I cannot live without syntax highlighting...It would take forever to debug large amounts of coding

[ToraTora!]

Kate, for Linux is my primary editor as it includes highlighting, plugins, line numbers, TRUE tabbing (not a bunch of spaces or offset characters like Notepad kicks out), a real nice Find/Replace utility, as well as integrated shell commands and other Linux goodies.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Dark_Wizard

Hmmm...looks interesting, even though I love my EditPlus I may take a look at this. Thanks for the info!

I second that, editplus is great software. I hope my first reply to this thread was not misleading. I still use editplus everyday and would recomend it to anyone.

[WhSox21]

...but it's so hard to move away from what you've been using (notepad )for years. I'm not sure that I could do it! I really do need to move from it though. The one thing I can't stand about notepad when programming vBulletin modifications is that I have to open up the newly downloaded vBulletin files in WordPad before I can read the code in NotePad. I forget why but for some reason it has everyone on one line. I read about it a long time ago. Either way tomorrow I'll try this out and see how I like it.

[filburt1]

Originally Posted by WhSox21

I forget why but for some reason it has everyone on one line. I read about it a long time ago.

Notepad only recognizes Windows-style linebreaks (CR+LF). It doesn't properly parse Unix-style ones (either CR or LF, can't remember which).