Firefox 1.0 Final Released!

[Xenon]

Originally Posted by deathemperor

then someone should tell the world just use one browser for coders to be safe....

nahh, that would eliminate those funny discussions and browserwars ^^

[sabret00the]

the sites still not performing properly but firefox is the one for now

[CarCdr]

I hear ya, but I am too old and have seen this sort of thing too many times in nearly 30 years to get religious about standards. Sure, MS is evil, yada, yada. I just can't get excited over this "injustice". Product managers do not give a rat's-ass what should be done. We must design for the standard, and the standard is, for now, IE. 98% of my users are IE and users are my boss.

(Now, the entire back-end is Linux, where I do have control. )

[Michael Morris]

Re: Standards.

Here on the web we love standards. That's why we have so many of them.

[DrkFusion]

Originally Posted by CarCdr

Product managers do not give a rat's-ass what should be done. We must design for the standard, and the standard is, for now, IE. 98% of my users are IE and users are my boss.

Organization ideals of the modernized and forth-coming age.

[deathemperor]

one thing I've just realized, firefox support streamload doesn't as well as IE6, I almost got no buffering with IE but not with Firefox, I'm using DSL connection.

but so far FireFox is appearently good

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Revan

Sir, it is attitudes like this that allows M$ Spyware Explorer to remain the "default standard".

IMO IE just happens to be so widly used because it just happens to ship as the default browser in the biggest OS world wide.

I find it very stupid to code in such a way that will prevent 98+ % of the users world wide to visit your site. The push for standards is a good one yes, but at the moment if something must be broken (a standard) in order for IE to see your site correctly, I would do it.

[Zachery]

IE follows the standards but not all of them, this is true
Firefox is guilty of the same, they do not follow all the standards and it does not render the code 100% correctly 100% of the time.

Both IE and Firefox have propeitery tags, which all the FF/Mozilla Nuts rant about ie having its filter: css setting, but Firefox has quite a few of its own.

Firefox is ok, it has tabbed browsing, and thats all it currently offers me, which is not enough to switch to.

[Xenon]

the main advantage FF has, is that it's not directly embedded into the OS, and therefore a security hole cannot cause that much damage than a security hole in IE can.

apart from that it's mostly a question of personal preferences, nothing more, nothing less.

[Michael Morris]

IE still makes a better interface to the admincp than Firefox by far. Other than that though I run them both to verify that everything displays properly in both.