World Wide Messenger Integration

[13th_Disciple]

aren't there integration hacks for chat programs or something released here that are also commercial pieces of software? The chat programs I mean, and not the hack itself.. If the hack is free, then I personally feel it should be allowed, regardless of whether it integrates with a commercial piece of software or not.

just my opinion.

this point was overcome, as we're now discussing about what to do regarding commercial tools.

but as you comment about the chat softwares, i have to tell that all the chats software that integrate with vB are offering a free version as a demo, situation that answer the point #4 of the rules.

[13th_Disciple]

Originally Posted by nexialys

we're now discussing about what to do regarding commercial tools.

I think I discussed that, as well..

Originally Posted by 13th_Disciple

If the hack is free, then I personally feel it should be allowed, regardless of whether it integrates with a commercial piece of software or not.

[Bryan Ex]

Originally Posted by nexialys

but as you comment about the chat softwares, i have to tell that all the chats software that integrate with vB are offering a free version as a demo, situation that answer the point #4 of the rules.

That raises a good point actually. I'm not familiar with the other chat applets but Sigmachat (the one I currently use) has an integration hack posted here. This is permitted because they have a free or "Lite" version available however, the integration script is for the upgraded paid versions because the features needed for it are only available in those versions. They meet "the rules" by having a free version but the hack is only good for the paid version... whoops!

I paid for their upgraded version just as I have paid for PhotoPost, aMember Pro, ReviewPost, Classifieds, Stats Log, Guest Book, ... will be purchasing Auto Rank Pro and something for web cam support in the near future. I for one would like to have various integration hacks available here for my vB boards.

[Merjawy]

If you allow a hack for DigiChat, PhotoPost and many others then you should allow this hack.. thats as simple as it can be

the hack is free for thoes who have WWM just like hacks for Photopost, and as far as I can remember theres no trial/lite version of photopost.

[Brad]

I think not allowing will stiple the community if not the number of vBulletin's sold. Intergration with other software is a must, more often then not a would-be-vBer is browsing this site to see if vB can intergrate with a script they are currently using or want to use along side of a vBulletin.

I agree with having a section just for these hacks however, I think that will allow us to find them more quickly.

No one said these hacks always come from the creater of said software, alot of times you find intergration instructions that someone just threw togther over the weekend for their own site and are willing to share. I don't think it is fare to these people to tell them they are not allowed to share their coding here, you could lose a new member or two that way imo.

[Bryan Ex]

Originally Posted by Brad.loo

Intergration with other software is a must, more often then not a would-be-vBer is browsing this site to see if vB can intergrate with a script they are currently using or want to use along side of a vBulletin.

That's exactly the process I went through when I switched from phpBB2 and what finally sold me on vB3... the integration of other scripts either by hackers here or from the script authors themselves.

[Jafo232]

Originally Posted by Bryan Ex

That's exactly the process I went through when I switched from phpBB2 and what finally sold me on vB3... the integration of other scripts either by hackers here or from the script authors themselves.

That was why I integrated the Messenger with VB. I had many of my customers asking me if it was possible so they could share the same logins, etc. After a while I figured I would finally just do it.

I didn't mean to stir up such a hornets nest with it, but as a VB owner myself, I think that a separate section for hacks for commercial integrations would be worthwhile and probably a good selling point for VB (and other products) as well.

[Bryan Ex]

Originally Posted by Jafo232

I didn't mean to stir up such a hornets nest with it, but as a VB owner myself, I think that a separate section for hacks for commercial integrations would be worthwhile and probably a good selling point for VB (and other products) as well.

I don't think you stirred up a hornet's nest... I think you brought a situation that needs to be addressed to the attention of others which is a good thing IMO given the favourable exception that PhotoPost seems to have acquired along the way and the apparent interest from others here looking for integration possibilities.

So, when will we have some changes in this situation ?!

i'd like to know if one day i will be able to advertise my own non-free tools here... i read a lot of service requests and hacks requests that can be answered by my tools, but i can't talk about them on the site, it's not fair... many users would benefit to see i have them online...

these tools are not even external commercial tools, they are complete mods for vBulletin only... we're not all doing these for free, remember, even vB is not free, so we need to know if our work is recognised or forgotten because of a blank politic...