Advice on how to make hacks

[MindTrix]

I got Zend Studio, ful version, Bloody amazing

As for thinkin i was a master hacker, thanks But sadly no, i know the basics etc and recently i seem to be helping out a hell of alot of people accidently lol, Mainly through PM's and people emailing me from this site :s Oh well lol.

I will get there one day As long as i got these tips etc to help along the way.

[rrottman]

Originally Posted by MindTrix

I got Zend Studio, ful version, Bloody amazing

As for thinkin i was a master hacker, thanks But sadly no, i know the basics etc and recently i seem to be helping out a hell of alot of people accidently lol, Mainly through PM's and people emailing me from this site :s Oh well lol.

I will get there one day As long as i got these tips etc to help along the way.

What do you generally think about the vB developer support apart from customers helping customer? Would you appreciate a concepts guide?

[MindTrix]

I personally would LOVE a documentation or something listing Variables etc and what they do, and maybe some Mini Tutorials (even by members) On how to do things. Now not big tutorials, but something like "This tutorial shows you how to call a template" etc.

[NTLDR]

Originally Posted by rrottman

And I'm really missing a basic developer documentation outlining what all the vars, consts and array actually mean in terms of the business objects they represent. Some of them have pretty explanatory names but there are paragraphs I've read n times without understanding even a bit of what and why they are doing things....

I'm not sure what developer documentation will be provided with vB3, for vB2 all we had was a Database Schema from vB 2 RC2 (IIRC) and a template guide.

I can say that vB3 is far more consistent with its code, using the same layout throughout and the naming of its functions which allow you to fairly accurately guess what one would be called should it exist.

As vB doesn't offically support hacked boards I don't think they will produce the kind of documentation you listed, however we maybe supprised

[rrottman]

Originally Posted by NTLDR

I'm not sure what developer documentation will be provided with vB3, for vB2 all we had was a Database Schema from vB 2 RC2 (IIRC) and a template guide.

I can say that vB3 is far more consistent with its code, using the same layout throughout and the naming of its functions which allow you to fairly accurately guess what one would be called should it exist.

As vB doesn't offically support hacked boards I don't think they will produce the kind of documentation you listed, however we maybe supprised

@NTLDR: So based on your experience (2.457 posts!!!) do you think I could find contributors? Currently vb3 RC2 consists out of 505 files. If we would possibly focus on the 20 most important and try to create a companion developer documentation without violating the license, do you think we could find people helping to create the docs???

And after all: Would it make sense?
All opinions are welcome!

[NTLDR]

Obviously not knowing what Jelsoft are producing in terms of documentation the following is what I think would be usefull, both to myself as an expericned hacker, and to people starting out:

Function Guide, a list of all the functions in vB3, a desctription of what they do and what information they return (if any) along with what file they are in.

A list of constants in vB3, if appropriate the values they can hold, and what the actaully define if its not obvious.

A list of some of the most common variables used, like $bbuserinfo, $vboptions etc what information they hold etc.

All three of the above can be done without voilating the licence, however it would take along time, there are probably around 1300~ functions and constants (combined, not 1300~ of each) in vB3 RC2.

[rrottman]

Originally Posted by NTLDR

Obviously not knowing what Jelsoft are producing in terms of documentation the following is what I think would be usefull, both to myself as an expericned hacker, and to people starting out:

Function Guide, a list of all the functions in vB3, a desctription of what they do and what information they return (if any) along with what file they are in.

A list of constants in vB3, if appropriate the values they can hold, and what the actaully define if its not obvious.

A list of some of the most common variables used, like $bbuserinfo, $vboptions etc what information they hold etc.

All three of the above can be done without voilating the licence, however it would take along time, there are probably around 1300~ functions and constants (combined, not 1300~ of each) in vB3 RC2.

Okay.
I'm really thinking of setting up a developer documentation project, maybe with an online function reference like php.net and the ability to comment? Maybe we can even use vB to do it??? :-) Post a function and its definition and comments?

Anybody else here: Would you contribute? If so: I create the site and keep you posted.

[KuraFire]

Originally Posted by rrottman

Okay.
I'm really thinking of setting up a developer documentation project, maybe with an online function reference like php.net and the ability to comment? Maybe we can even use vB to do it??? :-) Post a function and its definition and comments?

Anybody else here: Would you contribute? If so: I create the site and keep you posted.

I've already started a site with a few other skilled hackers and managers, that focuses on this and many other areas of vBulletin. Our site will eventually contain a lot of useful guides such as what you guys are thinking of here. If anyone wants to help out writing those guides, feel free to contact me by PM. Also if you just want more information about this project of ours.

[Gary King]

Originally Posted by KuraFire

I've already started a site with a few other skilled hackers and managers, that focuses on this and many other areas of vBulletin. Our site will eventually contain a lot of useful guides such as what you guys are thinking of here. If anyone wants to help out writing those guides, feel free to contact me by PM. Also if you just want more information about this project of ours.

Sounds interesting Kura

[MindTrix]

im interested also, Maybe you could PM me about this Kura please??