War on Iraq

[mitchell]

Mist I could tell your stance by the way that poll question was worded.

[filburt1]

Who the hell are we to be the moral judge in the world?

[Boofo]

When someone bombs New York City in early morning, unexpectedly, and kills 2000-3000 people in the process, moral judgement is no longer the most important issue. America is a family, I'm willing to protect my family, that's what it's supposed to be all about. If you stand by and do nothing while someone slaps you long enough, sooner or later, you're going to get hurt and then it's too late to do anything about it. Who is Saddam Husien to have moral judgement on us, or on any other country who doesn't agree with him? I believe if people don't like the way this country is run, and how we do things to get and keep the freedoms and ideals we have, then they have every right to go live in another country that they do agree with. That's what I would do if I didn't agree with it. If we don't take care of him now, then we can expect more September 11ths in the future. You don't wait for the snake to bite.

[filburt1]

That's precisely my problem: Bush is using an offensive defense. There's a simple solution: we don't interfere with other countries and then we have no problems ourselves.

*enjoys not having to type paragraphs*

[Boofo]

If what you're saying is true, then what did we do to Afghanistan to bring on Sept. 11th? I'm not saying we should judge the rest of the world, I'm not saying we should go attack Turkey because it's Thanksgiving or attack China because they do population control. Those are problems that don't adversely affect us, but when Saddam Hussein threatens to help out the Tali-ban by giving them chemical weapons, what is that? We're not morally judging anything, we're just defending ourselves, not in case of attack, but a very real probability of attack. If someone walks into my house and says they're going to shoot me, I'm not waiting until I see a gun before I take them out. If we don't take care of our own then when it's all done and said, there won't be anything left worth fighting for.

[Goldknight]

Originally posted by filburt1
That's precisely my problem: Bush is using an offensive defense. There's a simple solution: we don't interfere with other countries and then we have no problems ourselves.

Ignorant is a bliss That is what others (enemies) want us to be..., think it over.. Saddem don't give any f-u-c-k about USA or any countries. Iraq will bomb any countries if they need to do or just for fun sake. There are psychology anayzles on Saddem's psycho level and it is pretty high. Very unreliable and such (psycho-babbling) He does not GIVE ANY F-U-C-K if any countries or USA starts or not. There are many things that USA did not start yet other countries whined at USA for help ;p

Either way, surrender and we lost our homeland then massacure(spelling?) or slaves or go to war against him and possible save our homeland and freedom?

Many of people forget that USA save the f-u-c-k-i-n-g world from WW1 and WW2 ;p and already people complained and whined about USA and its activities..

People are weird.... again Ignorant is a bliss That is what people goes/went thur right now. Give it or take it. I stated my opinion, nothing more than that. Don't take offense by my comment. Unless vbulletin.org takes privilage of voice our opinion away ;p But I do agree with some of members here that Bush took too personal with Saddem and his father stuff, that which is beyond stupidity, he already lost the chance for next election anyway.

[high]* Goldknight thinks of move to Sweden or Denmark ;p[/high]

[Dean C]

Originally posted by filburt1
That's precisely my problem: Bush is using an offensive defense. There's a simple solution: we don't interfere with other countries and then we have no problems ourselves.

*enjoys not having to type paragraphs*

That's a theory but everyone know's that it's not true. In practice no-one is ever out of the firing line. Once you step into the light you can't go back out of it. Take Switzerland for example - look at it's position in europe - right between germany and france and it had not part to play in WW1 or WW2 - and it's stayed out of trouble.

- miSt

[filburt1]

Originally posted by Mist


That's a theory but everyone know's that it's not true. In practice no-one is ever out of the firing line. Once you step into the light you can't go back out of it. Take Switzerland for example - look at it's position in europe - right between germany and france and it had not part to play in WW1 or WW2 - and it's stayed out of trouble.

- miSt

So are you saying I'm right or wrong?

[Dean C]

In this case i don't think i'll reach a conclusion - life isn't about making conclusions though really - you can't say what you said is either wrong or right because i can find examples where your right and wrong

But the fact is that no-one can make right/wrong decisions - it's just part of life..

If the UN or if the UN doesn't back the US - just the US - decalre war on Iraq then whatever happens there will be people out there who believe it was the right decision and people who believe it was the wrong decision.

There's crazy people out there and these are normal people who mix amongst us in everyday life but that's part of life isn't it... if we interfere with these people what good is it going to do - how can we evolve as a species if we are constantly removing these individuals for society

Draw's Conclusion

In one way your right and one way your wrong but the way i see it whatever happens something bad is going to happen as a result of it - and that's life

- miSt

[Boofo]

You take the cake on this one, Mist. That has got to be the biggest bumch of bullsh!t I have ever heard anyone come up with. You start a poll and discussion and continue to try and sit on an imaginary fence. If you aren't going to have a human opinion, then maybe you ought not to start polls and discusioons, huh?