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Old 09-23-2002, 05:43 PM
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i agree with you entirely logician...

also id like to see you upgraded to mod my good friend... your one of the best hackers around ....

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Old 09-23-2002, 07:27 PM
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logician, that's why firefly spent a month to code the database.. it's a great tool to be used.
i use it all the time when i need an older hack.
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Old 09-23-2002, 07:49 PM
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well but some users don't add their hacks to the database...

perhaps this could be changed:
noone can create thread in the fullreleases forum anymore, but threads are created automatically there when someone posts a hack in the Database.

also as Pal Logician said more subforums for Full releases could help, hacks which are already in the HackDB can be moved easily to the new subforums i think, they are already catagorized.

The Minihack forum i suggested some time ago is already planned Chen told me shortly after i became Mod here, but i think just for the vb3 hackin forums

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More hacks from different authors should be applied to vb.org
intresting idea, but hard to do: the Admins don't have so much time, you can see this board runs at vb2.2.6, because Chen doesn'T have enough time to upgrade yet...
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Old 09-23-2002, 08:08 PM
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if any help is needed i'd be more then happy to help the community...

As for more authors... thats up to them if they want to learn and try...

As for a rating system i dunno... there's a crucial factor of everyone's 'first' hack... i've seen many that are not to be mean but not necessarily hacks... like my own if you care to check out out... yeah i know pretty sad but anyways first feedback from the community wasn't that great so i disappeared for a couple of months and returned more confident... as you can see i have made some improvement... but a 'hack ratings system' is like a 'bash new hackers' type deal... thats just my opinion...

As for and idea... perhaps if its someone's first hack there can be some kind of noticication (prefix?) so that members know its their first (second and third as well maybe?) so that they feel more comfortable and hackers will be easier....

Another idea... similiar to a new feature 'vb3 similiar threads' have a vb similiar hacks that would appear before confirming a hack release... this would maybe stop releases from being released in the past...

I don't know what else... just some input and my opinions... regards...

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Old 09-23-2002, 08:28 PM
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Some very interesting ideas. I like the idea of a clan-type system though I do have misgivings about it dividing the community.

Some kind of PHP course would be stellar. If anyone who knows PHP well would like to volunteer to lead a course in PHP, please contact me or Firefly.

Dividing up the hacks would probably not be a bad idea. We'll look into that.
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Old 09-23-2002, 09:04 PM
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logician, that's why firefly spent a month to code the database.. it's a great tool to be used.
i use it all the time when i need an older hack.
I didnt say otherwise Pal.. Hack db is a great tool if you are searching for a specific hack. But most of users are just visiting the site to "fish" for the hacks. They surf Full Releases section and take a glance for recently bumped hacks, check site's first page to get top 10 hacks or recently released hacks and just try to see if there is a hack they can apply to their board. The existing system of vb.org is overwhelmed by the rapid hack release rate and is not sufficient to users for "fishing" hacks. Only around 50 hacks are on the surface, while 1150 are laying in the dusty corners of full releases section. The existing structure is just like an iceberg..

Cant you notice this from your own hacks? A hack sometimes gets 5 installers in 2 months, then someones asks a question and thread is bumped in full releases and it gets 10 installers in 2 days. Happens to me all the time..

I agree the functionality and necessity of hack db, but I'm just stating that vb.org needs other tools/structures to promote "forgetten" hacks more and helps the visitors "fish" well..

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intresting idea, but hard to do: the Admins don't have so much time, you can see this board runs at vb2.2.6, because Chen doesn'T have enough time to upgrade yet...
I understand that. However if this is the case then it means vb.org needs more Admins. There are a lot of marvelous Mods around (like yourself) who are excellent vb hackers. I'm sure most of them can handle being Admins and easily handle these kind of chores..

Besides if a consesus about what will be done is maintained and management approves some of the proposals here, I'm sure many experienced hackers would happily help out coding/hacking of new vb.org additions/features.

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Another idea... similiar to a new feature 'vb3 similiar threads' have a vb similiar hacks that would appear before confirming a hack release... this would maybe stop releases from being released in the past...
agreed 100%

My 2 cents.. Thx for listening..
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May I make a suggestion? Mabing making a catagory for 2.x when 3 comes out listing hacks, and support forums, so it can be organized better.

The review system is a good idea.
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Old 09-23-2002, 09:16 PM
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g-force2k2,

Consider the review system as something for hackers to aspire to. If new hackers get their feelings hurt because their first hack did not get reviewed or it was given a 'poor' review, then perhaps those users are not made out to be php programmers... I would think that to be good, one needs to be open to criticism and more importantly, to learn from what is said. Basically, it goes hand-in-hand with maturity... mature people will accept it, others... well... we've come full circle now to my other suggestion

I'm afraid that having clan-systems will cause divisions. It is human nature and something that has already kinda happened here... one only needs to look at the whole arcade drama to see how some groups can cause division, even when that was not the original intent.

FWIW, these are my own humble observations here so take them however you want

Cheers,

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We will not be adding more admins. We will probably not be adding additional hacks unless we see a need for them. Installing them for the heck of it doesn't really help anything.
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Everyone has good points so far.

I really like the idea of a better organization of hacks, so the small and old but excellent hacks do not get lost in the mass. The hack db is excellent, but maye it should include all hacks. Also, more categories that are more specific would be great too. Maybe make a staff member responsible solely to maintain the db and move hacks to the correct category.
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