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[netmax]

Steve,

i did enter my username in this form directly after getting the license information, it told me that the names were updated - but now it was gone. But no problem, i did it again few minutes ago.

I will add a little more grey into the copyright notice. What would be the accepted "color difference"? In the license agreement they say it must not be removed and be visible. I have no problem to see it there (how many colcors do you use on your monitor leased: leased: leased: ), but it Jelsoft have definitions about that i will of course change it...

Marco

[TWTCommish]

Ignoring some free version of UBB, I basically started with, I think, vBulletin 1.1.3. I bought an owned license and used it to start a new site, MovieForums.com. I ran 1.1.3, with a hack here or there, for a LONG time. All the way until 2.0 stable was out! I upgraded (had some issues, lost old polls and such, but nothing huge), and have hacked it up like crazy since.

[JamesUS]

I started with vBulletin 1.1.2 a year or two ago - vB's certainly come a long way since then

[Steve Machol]

Originally posted by netmax
Steve,

i did enter my username in this form directly after getting the license information, it told me that the names were updated - but now it was gone. But no problem, i did it again few minutes ago.

Thanks! You're showing up as licensed now.

I will add a little more grey into the copyright notice. What would be the accepted "color difference"? In the license agreement they say it must not be removed and be visible. I have no problem to see it there (how many colcors do you use on your monitor leased: leased: leased: ), but it Jelsoft have definitions about that i will of course change it...
Marco

32bit.

As far as I'm concerned it's still not visible enough, but that's just my opinion. Since this is the only text you've made this color, it does appear that you are going out of your way to make sure the copyright info has as little visibility as possible while trying to keep within the 'letter' of the license agreement. Sorry, but I don't have much respect for that tactic. Why don't you just make it the same color as the rest of your text?

[kermie]

<grin> Not that it makes any difference... BUT, I'd like to point out that if I am a customer of vbulletin, and if I am operating well within the bounds of the license agreement, I believe I have the right to change the color of the "copyright" text. Yes it's obvious that I'm trying to grey it out, and it may even be a bit tacky. But I guarantee you that nobody is going to have a hard time reading that text unless they're near blind. And if that is the case, they probably have a program reading the text for them.

Of course, you were just stating your opinion, and I'm just stating mine. No offense intended. Thanks

I would lay off netmax, as he's a paying customer, and not violating the license in any way.

[Steve Machol]

For the record, vision problems related to contrast sensitivity are far more common than you realize. For instance, I honestly could not read that copyright text, yet I am far from blind (my vision is 20/20) and do not need to use a program that reads text for me.

Based on my visual perception, I felt I had the right to bring this issue up. I'm really happy that you have such great eye sight and sincerely wish that's always true for you.

[Admin]

kermie, I don't know what you're talking about but the copyright at your site is black like the night.

As for netmax, he could be a paying customer but still he violates the license agreement:
- All vBulletin copyright notices within design templates must remain unchanged (and visible).
I can barely find the copyright on his site, let alone read it. When I lower the contrast level in my monitor I begin to see to fuzzy letters, but that's all.

[kermie]

Originally posted by FireFly
kermie, I don't know what you're talking about but the copyright at your site is black like the night.

Is that good or bad?

As for netmax, he could be a paying customer but still he violates the license agreement:
- All vBulletin copyright notices within design templates must remain unchanged (and visible).

I can barely find the copyright on his site, let alone read it. When I lower the contrast level in my monitor I begin to see to fuzzy letters, but that's all.

Ok, I see Smachol's point here. My mistake, I apologize. What constitutes "unchanged" though. Is it ok to change the color, or does that mean it is wrong to change the actual wording of the text?

Brandan

[Martz]

My first forum was made from MS Frontpage (I believe) which included a bot type plugin which allowed users to post a few comments. I was pretty impressed with myself (for finding a hosting account with Front Page Extensions, YUK!) and acutally getting it to work, eventually.

From there I played with ubb and then moved to vB

[netmax]

@Steve

OK, i really won?t the people at Jelsoft working so hard on this fantastic product see in bad mood about this, i set a much higher contrast. Now, it should be readable for all

Marco