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The vbportal site says the version for vb 2.03 is still in development, but it appears some folks on here are already running it with 2.03. Whats the deal? I would like to get this program if it would work.
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Originally posted by ixian It's always nice to hear from people who have too much time on their hands.
A) You obviously want to try vbportal. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't have bothered with this tirade.
B) You see that they are asking for either money or programming help to actually get the beta. Since apparently programming help is beyond you, money is the way to go.
C) You are offended you can't get this hack for free.
I'm thinking I pretty much have your train of thought down. Then you decide to vent, and since you know no one will care about random venting, you try to throw some legalize into the whole mess to try and make your whining seem legitimate. The fact is, you don't even know whether he pays taxes on the money he receives or not. You just assume he doesn't because apparently that's how you would act.
The fact is, Bill Jones is a retired man working on this hack on his own. It is a massive hack - far more complicated than any you will find here - and the time required to build and maintain it, on top of answering questions (he has a forum with 10,000 posts, most of them asking for help - compare that to some of the hacks here) is too much to keep up with. Therefore, he limits access to people who can either A) Help him out with development and support or B) help out financially - I'm sure the cost of hosting his site alone is hundreds a month. Finally, as he has announced, he will release a stable beta to the public when he feels it's ready, and it won't cost anything.
I find this to be an entirely reasonable approach. I find your whining to be disgusting. Frankly, I am glad I don't have to deal with questions from you regarding vbportal. If you are that upset about it, how about you try and write one yourself? Let us know how it pans out.
Yes you are right, I don't know if he does or not. I'll find out and let you know how it "pans out".
TOOL (you): "Excuse me, I need to find out of this old retired guy is paying taxes on some money he's getting through his personal website".
IRS: "No problem, let me just grab his personal income tax forms and send them to you".
Yeah, ok. Give it a try.
All you might accomplish is having the IRS take a mild interest in looking after this. If the money received is under $5000, which it almost certainly is, it's doubtfull they will even go to the trouble. The IRS these days isn't as old school as they used to be when they would raid granny's house because she didn't report her piggy bank.
The bigger question that is just begging to be asked is, is there something really bugging you in your life that is causing you to act like a total tool in public, or are you always this way? I'm just curious at this point, not particularly upset.
P.S. His forums have a number of your "give it to me free or suffer" brethren posting. Perhaps you can go compare dead horses.
This is really getty silly. First off I don't know why I'm bothering to disclose this. It's really only between me and the IRS.
1. I'm a retired US federal employee (IT Systems Administrator) with 39 years, 2 months service. I do do recieve social security. My retirement is small, but I would do nothing to put my retirement in jeopardy.
2. Because I do not receive social security I am working towards that means. I need to work an additional 7 years to do so. I need to earn almost $5000 a year under social security. I am trying to do that by working out of my home. e.g. Internet work, I do computer repairs, upgrades. So I do claim everything I can.
3. I am doing everthing thru PayPal, nothing below the table. I refuse cash in the mail payments. you can ask anyone in my forums.
4. Most of the time I give free access to those that can't afford it. The only exceptions have been to those with attitude problems.
5. I also allow anyone that buys vbulletin thru my affiliate link free access.
I'm tired of typing, have to do better things, so I'll stop rambling.
All I can say is that I'm a model citizen, pay my taxes, defended my country in Vietnam, served my country for close to 40 years, I have a Presidential Citation to boot.
phpPortals is not a non-profit organization and I will pay my taxes, thats all I have to say.
Once you've achieved 40 years of un-tarnished service to your country then come talk to me.
BTW, My name is William A. Jones or wajones, I don't hide my identity. My city of residence is in the side column.
Originally posted by qwaz Well, there goes a good debate down into name calling.
Good job.
I can see your point about name calling (although I feel "tool" is both fairly mild as insults go and somewhat accurate in this case) but there is no way I am going to agree there was any thing good about this "debate". I'm just glad it is now over.
Originally posted by caphq Sorry for being a dink. You didn't deserve it.
No problem, I have encountered worse, but always endure. I believe in confronting your issues, so I respect what people think and once you hear both sides then form your opinion.
I should probably change the button from donation to ??. Contributions to "profit making organizations" are taxable but mis-understood. Thats just the button that PayPal provides, the other buttons say purchase or buy now and I want to make it clear that your not buying vbPortal. It will be made available once it's ready, it's just not ready. I am installing a cvs server tonight, well my son is for me. I have 3 or 4 people lined up to help with things. So it should go faster.
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