Posts deleted by moderators aren't "deleted"

[DarkReaper]

Originally posted by Meirion
Err, aren't they going to behave more honestly if they know you can review which posts they deleted? Have to say, if I worked at McDonalds and was going to nick a burger - I'd do it when no-one's watching.

Exactly, But I want to see them for who they really are. I don't want a lying scumbag moderating a part of my forums who only looks good when nobody's looking

[Mark Hewitt]

What is all this about?!!

I have a bin forum (I call it Pulled Posts) and I have gone through the templates and removed all the options to delete a thread and delete a post.

Instead my moderators must move threads in the pulled posts forum. If they want to remove a post they must do a split -> move.

I cannot for the life of me think why you would wish to keep the pulled posts forum a secret from the moderators.

And I don't keep this forum as a safety against the moderator going crazy but rather just to keep a record of everything.

Then if there is trouble with a user we can just go back to them and say you said this and this and this. If you allow deletion there is no record of that at all.

This does not need a hack, just some small template edits!

[Meirion]

My point exactly, Mark.

DR, I still can't quite see why you want to keep it a secret though. It seems almost as if you *want* your moderators to cock up, so that you can catch them out then wag a stick at them saying "why did you delete this one eh?"

Ultimately you want your mods to remove the kind of posts you don't allow, but not strech their liberties to killing other posts which are acceptable. So if you tell them you will review all their deletions you will most likely have well behaved mods.

Hey, I've got loads of lying scumbags - their my users... can you send me all your corrupt mods... could be useful to me!

[DarkReaper]

Lets take this example:

I run forums where clans can be hosted. If a moderator is kicked out of the clan, there is a lapse between him being kicked out and being removed from moderator status. If he actually had to be kicked from the clan, he's probably going to be very pissed and do something - such as deleting lots of posts. If I had this logged then I would be able to catch him, and remove his access, but would it matter? All the posts would be gone.

Making moderators move things is a pain in the ass.

[Jawelin]

Simply, could the
* 'DELETE THREAD' replaced by a move to a particular forum (Recycle Bin)
and
* 'DELETE POST' replaced by a move to a particular forum (Recycle Bin) within a new thread called the same way of the original one
????


Everything under the control of everybody (i.e. with a Recycle Bin accessible by the entire staff)...
More, only for admins should be an option like 'empty thrash'...

This should be just a facility to admin and mods to REMEMBER THEMSELVES to move safely threads and posts to a rollbackable place, without hiding nothing to nobody of the trustable users...

What do you think about ?

P.S.: I think the once-a-day backup shouldn't be a secure (as delayed) solution....

Thanks

[mvigod]

I agree that this feature would be good. 2 days ago a mod mistakenly blew away a post. This was a post I had just spent 10 minutes writing a reply to nonetheless! I could not get it back as my last DB backup was the night before.

Just curious...if I have a full database backup and let's say the thread that was blown away could be recovered from the back how could I get that row/table entry from the database back into my vb database? My backup is on my server off site so is there a way to get that entry over the network and into the real live vb database and how would I accomplish this?

Thanks!

[Jawelin]

phpMyAdmin ....

There's also an hack to log (with thread/post #s) all moderator's activity...
Very useful NOT to check them who are trustable by definition, but to friendly recover any possible error, even by the admin themselves...

Don't you make mistake ? Never ?

[Jawelin]

What do you think about modifying only the 'delete' functions in functions.php to move thread instead deleting it from the db ??
I'm not sure it'll be enough to modify such a single file to realize this hack.
???

Thanks

[TELEK]

OOH! OOH! Yes this is a very good idea! I really want this! It should be easy, you should just be able to edit the delete command to a move command. But I would want it so only I could see it, not all of the admins. I want to know what people are posting and if a MOD is on a deleting spree.

OH, but then if you deleted posts/threads from the Recycle Bin what would happen?

[Jawelin]

I mean to check, when deleting thread/post, the current area.
If a normal forum, move thread/post to RECYCLE BIN.
If recyclebin forum (and the user has permission, for example managed like prunelog permission), actually remove the thread/post from the DB.

Should be a very useful enhancement, I think.

Thnaks