enough is enough....people get ripped off!!

[aceofspades]

A feedback system is exactly what is needed, i cant believe it hasn't already been integrated tbh.

[iogames]

Escrow?

[Dean C]

Originally Posted by Princeton

a feedback / rating system can be abused - it will only create new problems

the best form of promotion (or selling your services)...
is to act appropriate (whenever posting), release great products, write great articles, and offer support.

your actions dictate:
- Who you are.
- What type of person you are.
- How good you work with others.

once you start doing this employers/buyers will start contacting you


TIP:
Large employers are often lurking in these forums - looking for qualified personnel. The actions you take here can make a difference in your life. By standing out, you will start getting offers too good to pass.

You are totally missing the point of the thread poster. It's the coders that are the problem in this instance. I have no problems getting work, and I'm sure most of the experienced coders around here are the same, as you point out. Good coders tend to attract good buyers, so I don't have the problem with them either.

The problem is with the bad apples within the community. Yes, a feedback system can be abused with inaccurate feedback placed, but you have the same thing on ebay and amazon marketplace. Why not make such a feedback system opt-in. Bad coders would soon disable it and have no feedback on which to base their experience, and good coders can disable it if they feel it's being abused for whatever reason. I think it's also important to do as ebay does and let the person to reply to feedback they recieve, but only once.

[bitbender]

is to act appropriate (whenever posting), release great products, write great articles, and offer support.

your actions dictate:
- Who you are.
- What type of person you are.
- How good you work with others.

Folk, I have a prortfolio of efforts I have built over the years. As the admin said. DO great work, write GREAT articles and DOCUMENTATION that is better than your mods, and you can't help but do well. I can substantiate any skill I wish to sell to a prospective client. But there is one thing I will not do, and that is sell them something I KNOW I can't do with a professional level of quality.

I work for a large outsourcer, and I train two teams folks overseas to be mainframe systems engineers (yea, go ahead, laugh at the dinosaur ) . The quote above is very similar to their objectives in their job descriptions. And I insist they have the best customer service and integrity attributes possible.

So, heed that fella, he speaks with straightened tounge :up:

[iogames]

I use Guru.com with excellent results! 10/10
here in vB.org 0/6

[parash]

Originally Posted by iogames

I use Guru.com with excellent results! 10/10
here in vB.org 0/6

I guess vb.org and guru.com are made with two different purpose...vbulletin is only a support site .....and for paid req section it have clear rules...people dont read them....instead of it vbulletin should apply simple feedback from each hiring persons...about the person they pickk..

[legionofangels]

Originally Posted by Princeton

a feedback / rating system can be abused - it will only create new problems

Ok this is just wrong. Not IF the Rating system tracks the IP of the person who left the rating.

Then you can find them in the ACP and basically investigate the issue.

Users under 25 posts here should be fully excluded from rating and even using Paid Requests Services section, shouldn't even be able to view it, that's how people get scammed and how people rip people off.

Saying the ratings can be abused is kind of off as well, considering that the Mods/Add ons here are rated by hundreds/thousands of members, and they generally are 4 to 5 star. So one bad rating, is not going to affect a great coder.

EDIT - put the rating system on the users profiles page. It can be done in 5 minutes. It's called, they don't want to do it, that is the issue.

[Attilitus]

I can understand why they wouldn't want to create a rating system. However, I think that a feedback forum is more than reasonable. Especially when you consider that their solution right now is to promote user's to "update" their service request thread with their feedback of a coder.

It makes sense to have a separate forum for feedback to make it more transparent to new buyers where they ought to investigate the reputation of coders.

Such a solution would be easier, rather than more difficult to moderate. Afterall, it is easier to monitor user feedback when it is in a feedback forum than when it is randomly scattered about in the paid-service request forum.

[legionofangels]

That's fine. Just have the threads be the very User Name of the Coder

like

Attilitus

Psionic Vision

Boofo

and let user's reply to there threads with feedback, and use the Thread Rating System as a rating of the coder.

If someone gets a reply from someone they didn't work with, they contact the mod of that forum and state, I did not do work for this client, etc. Please remove there post and rating if possible.

Again, if Thread Rating, or Coder Rating gets abused on this site, then so are the Ratings for every hack that has been on this site for the past X years.

[Boofo]

Since I don't code for hire, that doesn't apply to me as I don't want to get a bad rep from someone who might be undesirable to work for in the first place. My rep is bad enough as it is.

And why in the hell am I third on the list?! Let's be using the DESC variable. Discrimination due to age is illegal, you know.