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Old 07-18-2007, 07:36 AM
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Honestly, the exageration in this is amazing. The new staff have closed five threads since they joined, all of them in the first two days as they were getting used to the way we work here. Let's get back to a sense of reality please.
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:43 AM
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Staff members are not excempted from any of the rules that apply to regular members. If you feel staff member is braking any of our rules, please report it and it will be reviewed.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:43 AM
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as for a BIG-MEGA-PROLIFIC community, each one know that a lot of rules have to be applied, but foremost, the moderators and other parts of the team have to learn from eachothers...

sure some advisors took their task too seriously at the first day, they were all advises-whoring, and that was obvious this time... they were not teached at first, and they start to act like they were on their own site... (actually, these guys lost their situation the day after, due to a lot of facts, but...)

that,s exactly like for any new member of a team.. there is a moment of latency wher errors occur, new moves and new thoughts are applied, and that's ok... they will learn quickly i'm sure!
The few advisors who lost their "jobs" was due to private matters. It was not because we "advised" too much.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:31 PM
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People do things different.

On my site I do not use the warning system or lock threads. I just remove threads/posts/images.
If a member does not like it they can protest. If they continue and more threads must be removed, then the member disappears. All posts, image, and any other content from the member is pruned.

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Old 07-18-2007, 05:32 PM
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While it is true that every admin may run their own forums a different way, I would expect that there were (are) some guidelines that the new staff should be able to read to get a handle on the way this site is run.

That said, there's always an adjustment period, and from what I've seen so far, they're doing a pretty good job.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:45 PM
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Even if there are guidelines, they may not read (you would hope that they would)... Or they may misread them and / or misinterperate them I'm sure that they will get adjusted soon, meaning that all will return to normal.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:38 AM
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Even if there are guidelines, they may not read (you would hope that they would)... Or they may misread them and / or misinterperate them I'm sure that they will get adjusted soon, meaning that all will return to normal.
If staff doesn't read guidelines and follow the site guidelines , the position shall be taken from them. This site is noone's personal site and noone can act like this.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:46 AM
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If staff doesn't read guidelines and follow the site guidelines , the position shall be taken from them. This site is noone's personal site and noone can act like this.
At the end of the day, while there are guidelines for the New Moderators to follow, just like in life you cannot account for every eventuality. There may be times that a staff member makes the wrong decision about how to handle a situation, whether they be a new staff member or indeed a more experienced one. The important thing here is to learn that just because we all know how to moderate and administrate our own websites, does not mean you immediately know how to moderate another. It has been said before, and it is true that every website will differ depending on the person who sets the rules.

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Old 07-22-2007, 05:47 PM
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We all the time discuss or provide feedback on staff actions and decissions, trying to imprive the quality and consistency of our staff decissions. That does not mean that there will never be a decission that might be questionable, but we do try to improve all the time. This goes for both old and new staff, but obviously new staff will need a bit of time to get used to them.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:54 PM
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My post here is a suggestion and not so much a critique of what may or may not have transpired recently. (I didn't notice any closed threads, but that just means I wasn't looking at those that were closed. lol)

On my site, I have a hidden category called "Administration". Below that category, I have several hidden forums that pertain to different things.

When I take on a new staff member, we require them to post in one of the forums stating that they wish to delete a thread, close a thread, etc. When they post this, then then must offer their reasoning.

The current staff (most whom I have been working with for 5+years) then responds with why that would be ok, or why it wouldn't be ok to do so.

In essence, by using this method, we are literally teaching the new staff how we run the site and what is and isn't allowed.

If it is in agreeance that a thread requires deletion, closing, etc., we allow the staff member that adressed it to complete the process.

This process may seem redundant to some, but it works very well for us. We also leave the posts in this hidden forum there for future staff to use as a reference.

If someone posts porn, spam, etc., it goes without saying that the thread is at least deleted temporarily. (No staff but my admins can physically remove posts.) While a thread is in soft delete, the staff member who did it sends the user a PM letting them know the thread is curently under review.

Well, thats my 2 cents. lol I think something along those lines may also benefit this site as well.
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