+ Modification Database :Please *VOTE*POLL+

[Brad]

What is there now was never meant to be the 'hack database', I think the wording in the intro is throwing people off.

I designed that on my own to solve a few issues with the layout we were using. It was designed to be a hold over until the coding team finished the modification database, nothing more, nothing less.

The 3.5 forums were merged because of complaints going back for a year or more, way back when people said the three forums confused them. That is why I merged them.

People voiced complaints about the graphics section getting the shaft, that's why it got it's own section, and was one of the main reasons for placing an index there.

This was my thinking when I created that, obviously others do not agree with it. The current staff (outside of Danny) had no say in this index. It was entirely my idea, I designed it, I installed it, blame me if you're looking to blame someone. I'm willing to take the blame for it, and I don't feel bad about hearing feedback on it, does not bother me one bit.

I know for a fact the staff is now planning a total re-write, which is needed. Changing things here is not as simple as going to the admincp, it often requires making modifications to many .php files and plug-ins. Just adding new versions to the drop down on newthread.php requires two code changes to a plug-in for example.

So many people have had their hands in the cookie jar over the years that the back-end is a mess.. Cut the staff some slack and give them some time, you'll see good things if you give them some time, I promise.

[Ziki]

Originally Posted by Floris

I don't hate it, I love it!

I second you!It is much better viewable.But Add ons for 3,5 and 3.6 should be categorised into Plugins, extensions, code mods, and misc hacks (option changes,bbcodes...)

[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by Brad

People voiced complaints about the graphics section getting the shaft, that's why it got it's own section, and was one of the main reasons for placing an index there.

If we are being honest, the graphics Area did get the shaft. When I post my concerns it's primarly to do with the location.

If you look at it from a contributors perspective, you've essentially made it hard. I've already stated this but I'll say it again. With graphics you have members requesting for alterations/colour changes etc, point being, the contributor has to constantly be able to view the thread for new posts/requests and with the graphic location beinng buried you just can't tell whther there is any new posts without going through 3 sets of links/areas to bypass. In short, it's simply to much work (if you're submitting 10 sets of graphics per day) which i was doing. I would have to be mad to increase this kind of workload without constantly refreshing in the modifications area. I'm simply advising that the graphic area somehow gets moved to the index page (like before).

Why would this entail any kind of coding? all your doing is moving the area to another location (in it's original location). Unless I'm missing something that to move the graphic area to a more prominant position that major coding work needs doing to it. The way I feel towards anything you say is "pinch" "salt"

Suggesting anything here always puts me in a foul mood so I'll glady take you up on your offer and officially blame you.

[MThornback]

Personally I don't see it much differently than I do a collapsable group of forums....I understood going in that it wasn't its final form so I didn't get myself all worked up over it....excuse them for trying....are you gonna burn them at the stake for making the changes as best they can in the time span they have? I think that things are on the road to recovery and all the mud slinging is doing more harm than good.

Your not happy, fine, we can all see.....your an Admin...what would you do if someone did this to your community? I just checked...the PM system is working...

$0.02

[Princeton]

yes, I agree. The Mod section needs revamping.

We have been working on many changes (this is one of them) ... you will see the changes as they are completed.

[bashy]

Well im sorry but i like it, i dont have any problems finding what i need.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Let me make a few points here based on remarks made in this thread:

• The current shape of the site is far from optimal. A lot of members have addressed their concerns over a period of time. Staff have been listening to this but was for many reasons unable to change it on a short notice.
• Like Brad mentioned there have been many people disliking the old 3.5 layout. He tried with both a layout change and by merging some categories to improve this a little with some more "easy" changes. Despite his efforts, this didn't mean it was an improvement for a large part of our members. We are currently looking into some easy changes again to get some improvement on the short term.
• We had and have a lot of plans to improve this site, and it is being worked on. There are many reasons why this isn't progressing as fast as we would all like. A lot of changes in our Staff not only ment that our internal organisation was not totally stable, but it also ment we lost a lot of people who had knowledge of the inner works. We are now first building up the knowledge inside the teams again, so we can deliver the quality we are aiming to reach. But this also cost time.
• Inspecting the current code of the side, made us come to the conclusion that spending a lot of time on improving the current code, is not the most effective approach. We will very likely first rebuild a lot of the current features, removing hard-coded solutions, transfer them to make full use of the posibilities that where introduced with vBulletin 3.5, such as the Plugin system. This might set our improvements back in time, but it will allow us to develop much faster in the future. Also upgrading to a new vBulletin version would be a lot easier.
• Once we have a stable new code-base, we expect that you will start to see new features added faster.
• Since the merge with vBulletin-Templates, the Design categories didn't always get the attention they deserved. Changes will be made to ensure that both the Coding sections and the Design section get equal attention.

In short, changes might start slow and in the beginning maybe mostly cosmetic, but we need the time to prepair a more flexible environment so we can faster react on changing demands.

[Kirk Y]

This poll doesn't cover the entire spectrum of problems with the hack db. I like the new layout -- just not how the Plugins, Extensions, and Code Modificiation Forums were combined, that's really the only thing I wish would be changed.

[gothicuser]

Originally Posted by acidburn0520

This poll doesn't cover the entire spectrum of problems with the hack db. I like the new layout -- just not how the Plugins, Extensions, and Code Modificiation Forums were combined, that's really the only thing I wish would be changed.

here here, my thoughts exactly.

[Brandon Sheley]

i like it..

and i find it funny the number of threads I've seen thu the years I've been here asking when the hacks database will be back..

now it's back, and already a thread to remove it loooooolz

some tweaking may be able to be done, but I hope it doesn't get removed