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The Geek · #**201** 12-24-2005, 01:53 PM

It seems that the best solution is to reset the entire poll. Let it run on an extra week to make up for the lost time. I cant see what harm it could do. Regardless, what community there is that is currently active have voiced their opinion on the matter and it does seem to suggest that they disagree with what has happened. That alone does not warrant a reversal of staff decision - however it does warrant looking at a possible solution that would be fair for everyone.

For what its worth - I think that the mods made the best decision at the time with the information they had. However there are times when the best intentions are not always the best solutions. Be big enough to say 'crap, I miscalled that one.'

Also for what its worth - after the hoo haw, I downloaded both systems and from my point of view, v3arcade is far better. Its coded from scratch, far cleaner and better written. Thats not to say the other isn't good and has its merits - its just to point out that regardless of my preference, fair is fair. You cant punish someone for a rule that is unpublished and enforced sporadically.

Reset the entire poll, and leave it open until the end of January. Leave January's as-is normal. Who cares if the two overlap?

Just my yule log for the fire

AshokForums.com · #**202** 12-24-2005, 05:28 PM

GUYS please have a look at this..

whats going on here.. Check out this link https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=93783

Show your support and vote this hack for HotM September!!

Although he has clearly requesting the forum members to vote, his hack wasnt removed from the HotM for September.. https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=96300

Chris M · #**203** 12-24-2005, 06:05 PM

That is neither using the "Send Update" feature or the PM system, or emailing members directly to ask them to vote...

Whether this sort of action will be prohibited in the future, we will find out when the rules are made public...

IMO that is acceptable, as it is contained within the hack thread, and does not intrude elsewhere within this forum...

Chris

kewl1uk · #**204** 12-24-2005, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M

That is neither using the "Send Update" feature or the PM system, or emailing members directly to ask them to vote...

Whether this sort of action will be prohibited in the future, we will find out when the rules are made public...

IMO that is acceptable, as it is contained within the hack thread, and does not intrude elsewhere within this forum...

Chris

I think you are missing the point: MrZeroPage didn't knowingly break any rules because he didn't know about the rules which is not surprising because the HotM rules didn't exist at the time he allegedly broke them. Huh? Anyway, even at this moment in time there are no HotM rules except as existing amongst the staff who can most likely change them at anytime to anything they like because they are not written down! What I wonder is what other unwritten rules we don't know about will be applied in other areas of vbulletin.org not to mention other sites in the vbulletin group? For unwritten rules" I think read "whims". It's a dirty business isn't it!

tamarian · #**205** 12-24-2005, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M

That is neither using the "Send Update" feature or the PM system, or emailing members directly to ask them to vote...

Could you guys stick to one set or interpretation of these rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G

I don't know why people are continuing to waste their time arguing about this. It's a rule - no promoting your hack in a HOTM vote.

There are several past nominees and winners who asked for votes (some of them staff members). Now if you say it's o.k. to promote it in your threads, that's more "mass" promotion than PM's to your testers or those seeking support.

Chris M · #**206** 12-24-2005, 06:50 PM

We will work out every possible eventuality and word the rules accordingly - Whether promoting it only within the first post of your hack thread is allowed or not, I don't know... yet...

Chris

sitka · #**207** 12-25-2005, 06:25 AM

reset the poll.

Boofo · #**208** 12-25-2005, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Geek

Also for what its worth - after the hoo haw, I downloaded both systems and from my point of view, v3arcade is far better. Its coded from scratch, far cleaner and better written.

You can't even enter a game manually in v3Arcade. That alone takes it down a few notches.

Oblivion Knight · #**209** 12-25-2005, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo

You can't even enter a game manually in v3Arcade. That alone takes it down a few notches.

Sure you can..

Admin CP -> Game Tools -> Import

Paul M · #**210** 12-25-2005, 10:41 AM

Haven't we done arcade v arcade to death already ....

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