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Old 12-24-2005, 10:49 AM
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I was only replying to you stating this was the action of a single Moderator.
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Old 12-24-2005, 10:52 AM
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May I also add that the team decision was made after the fact. But this really does not bear any impact to the issue at hand.

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I was only replying to you stating this was the action of a single Moderator.
I understand, but its redundant at this point. It doesnt matter who made it or why. I will go out on a limb and say at face value it was the best decision at the time, but that time has passed and now the situation is different.


The end goal here is to maintain a community which is what the rules support via core values. Should the rules not support the communitie's core values then they should be revised. Since the rule in question is implied (not written), then it's revision should be quite efficient and pleasing to the overall community.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:09 AM
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You seem to completly forget about all the other times this happened. Why whinge now? Why this one? Nothing was different and nothing has changed in our decision. And this decision was not made in haste or in the heat of the moment. It was discussed with the staff AND the hack author. And I'm sorry, but a few vocal members does not represent the community - we have 110,000 members, and you are like the angry mothers of the community.

All the other hack authors who have had this happened to them are of course upset, but they understand and get over it. I think some of you should just do the same. We are aware the rule wasn't that clear but we had enforced it before so it is not completly oblivious to the "community"
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:10 AM
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May I also add that the team decision was made after the fact.
Could i aks on what (wrong) info you base that assumption?
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I understand, but its redundant at this point. It doesnt matter who made it or why.
If it doesn't matter, then why you posted that it was a decission by a single moderator.

For the rest see my answer a few posts back.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:13 AM
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Maybe you should install the little hack that allows you to close a thread but continue to vote .....
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:26 AM
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You seem to completly forget about all the other times this happened. Why whinge now? Why this one? Nothing was different and nothing has changed in our decision. And this decision was not made in haste or in the heat of the moment. It was discussed with the staff AND the hack author. And I'm sorry, but a few vocal members does not represent the community - we have 110,000 members, and you are like the angry mothers of the community.

All the other hack authors who have had this happened to them are of course upset, but they understand and get over it. I think some of you should just do the same. We are aware the rule wasn't that clear but we had enforced it before so it is not completly oblivious to the "community"
I did not forget. I really dont care what rule you made or what rule you may enforce. You may have to make a rule right now this second to address something. This is normal as our environment is one of constant change. The only thing I care about is the public outcry. This is now a priority of Jelsoft which has become quite prominent as of late.

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Over time, websites evolve to serve their members. Lately there has been a lot of heated discussion about commercial hacks and addons for vBulletin and this site. Currently they are not allowed in the forums but a good portion of the membership would like to see them here according to recent polls. What I would like to propose is an equitable solution that hopefully addresses the major issues.
Tony, do not make the mistake of becoming defensive. Your use of quotes on the word community is to mock me. If you do not agree with the context then do not agree. I am sure you have another outlet for derogatory notions.

Those that have an opinion will post and those without one will not. If members are expressing themselves then they are representing their portion of the community. It is a large enough portion to spend 30 minutes reading a thread. That is large enough for me. What are your standards?

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Could i aks on what (wrong) info you base that assumption?
If it doesn't matter, then why you posted that it was a decission by a single moderator.

For the rest see my answer a few posts back.

To establish credibility of it's haste, nothing more.

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Maybe you should install the little hack that allows you to close a thread but continue to vote .....
You can always decide not to read if the content is not to your liking.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:42 AM
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To establish credibility of it's haste, nothing more.
Then i must disappoint you, it was not done in haste, it was discussed by Staff before any action was taken.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:53 AM
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Then i must disappoint you, it was not done in haste, it was discussed by Staff before any action was taken.
How many people make a decision does not define whether the decision was in haste or not, time can only do that.

I personally do not fault anyone here for what has happened. The only mistake to be made now is to not listen to the current outcry of the community.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:58 AM
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*sigh*
This will be my last post about the topic.
I posted it was not done in haste, what info you got about staff decissions to state anything else.
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*sigh*
This will be my last post about the topic.
Ok, have a Merry Christmas.
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