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Old 09-01-2004, 08:38 PM
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Great... Wouldn't it be nice to have someone with talent and business sense. Seems to be a pipe-dream!
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Old 09-01-2004, 08:46 PM
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I wouldn't trust or go near InsideThePixel Dameon is just another like Corey. Not taking on too many project just the fact of not delivering them.
Ive talked with Damoen and he does not seem like a bad guy and i would not personaly compare him to corey wojen
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Old 09-01-2004, 11:36 PM
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I wouldn't trust or go near InsideThePixel Dameon is just another like Corey. Not taking on too many project just the fact of not delivering them.
He's delivered on all of his projects for quite a while now. So don't make accusations.

Leppard. The GelTech skin was discontinued quite a while back, including support for it.
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Old 09-02-2004, 03:23 AM
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Do you read?

I believe Sam FT just got through saying how his project was not delivered.

I bought the Geltech skin. Why wasn't I notified it was discontinued?
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:37 AM
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Do you read?

I believe Sam FT just got through saying how his project was not delivered.

I bought the Geltech skin. Why wasn't I notified it was discontinued?
Do you?

Sam FT said that he had to let him go because Dameon had no coder, he then tells us that Dameon is a good guy and had too much on his plate. Now without warrant 4 months later he's blasting him again.

I don't know why you wasn't notified. But seeing as there's been no official site for ITP for some months now I would have thought that it was pretty obvious that the skin was discontinued, but that's just me.
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Old 09-02-2004, 01:17 PM
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Sam FT said that he had to let him go because Dameon had no coder
i.e, the project was not completed/delivered.

Were you ever on the ITP support forums? Did you ever see all the ignored support questions? Did you ever see when they just started deleting support questions without answering them?

It was a business that never should have opened and failed to deliver on every aspect of what a reputable business is expected to.

They/he screwed up, plain and simple. Don't insult those that were burned first-hand who are taking the time to share their experiences with the rest of the community.

Now, since this Geltech skin is discontinued and was a commercial product, what is holding anyone back from releasing it here for free?

~Regs.
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Old 09-02-2004, 05:50 PM
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i.e, the project was not completed/delivered.

Were you ever on the ITP support forums? Did you ever see all the ignored support questions? Did you ever see when they just started deleting support questions without answering them?

It was a business that never should have opened and failed to deliver on every aspect of what a reputable business is expected to.

They/he screwed up, plain and simple. Don't insult those that were burned first-hand who are taking the time to share their experiences with the rest of the community.

Now, since this Geltech skin is discontinued and was a commercial product, what is holding anyone back from releasing it here for free?

~Regs.
Becauise it is still a commericail prodcut and it still protedted under copyright.

Distrubting it would be illegal
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Old 09-02-2004, 06:24 PM
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And for how long would it be protected under copyright?

I'm under the assumption that ITP broke their "contract" with myself by not providing the VB3 version they stated would be made available when VB3 went gold, a key selling point they made when peddaling the style.

It's a worthy discussion I think.

For example, say I 'released' the Geltech style that worked with VB3 for free. If ITP claimed copyright infringement and then attempted to proceed with legal action, would I have a counter-claim/case for 'breach of contract'? What would take precedence?

Cheers,

~Regs.
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And for how long would it be protected under copyright?

I'm under the assumption that ITP broke their "contract" with myself by not providing the VB3 version they stated would be made available when VB3 went gold, a key selling point they made when peddaling the style.

It's a worthy discussion I think.

For example, say I 'released' the Geltech style that worked with VB3 for free. If ITP claimed copyright infringement and then attempted to proceed with legal action, would I have a counter-claim/case for 'breach of contract'? What would take precedence?

Cheers,

~Regs.
Lets not get into it.

Heres what i know

Jelsoft discontinued vBulletin 1.0, just because its discontinued does not me it can be freely distrubuted, as it would still require a license, while jelsoft the company is intact the same is true for ITP's IP. Which is their skin, if you did not purchase a license to use it you cannot use it now nor will you ever be able to.
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Old 09-03-2004, 04:41 AM
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Anyone else care to have a healthy discussion on this?

I'm always interested in hearing other's opinions and responses to hypothetical issues.

Cheers,

~Regs.
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