Vb.org and there attitude to Lockdown hack

[Zachery]

Originally Posted by ap0c

just for the sake of discussion and the fact I'm stuck on a coding problem, what's the difference between the lockdown hack and the hack that allows admins or others to read members pms? Both could be used for the wrong reasons.

The lockdown hack forces you to reply to a thread, once you do this they get your IP and such, which if the file your downloadin has a virus or somthing gives the programmer very easy access and narrows down the list, amung a whole list of other things

[13th_Disciple]

imo, making it so only registered, mods/ super mods and admins can view forums gives almost the same exact deal as this, which is good enough for me.. besides, all i have to do is view the admin CP for IP's, or who's online.. of course being admin makes this possible.. and the person has to be registered for the adminCP bit..

i like the idea of a lockdown tool, don't necessariy agree with the idea of making it out to be almost illegal in nature, but also understand the premise behind it's being regarded as a no go on here and from jelsoft itself..

[lasto]

yep i read the other thread a while back - and even with it i still come to the conclusion that its is up to members what hacks they put on their board.If its a paid for board then the choice is theirs.Jelsoft regards to vbull boards should be only against piracy and the illegal use of pirated boards or eve legal ones distributing warezs etc.

Lockdown hack has been blown out of all propotions.Its tru what logician says about its use on pirated boards but if that is the case then im pretty sure there is a lot of other hacks on here that pirated boards use so should`nt we not discuss them either ???

Lockdown hack aint nothing special to be honest but its annoying when posts get closed cause someone wants to discuss it or cause their views dont correspond to staff of Jelsoft.
I aint bothered if this hack never comes on here to be honest but my only argument is that regardless of Jelsoft view in the past this is a hack board and as such they should not be allowed to dictate to us what hacks we can have cause they thing they may be used for pirated boards.

If someone wants a hack for a specific purpose and someone is willing to make it then should`nt that person be allowed that hack ?

Filbert i do agree with what is being said and that other boards dont bother cause they are free anyway but why is one that is paid for stopping people from freedom of choice while free ones have it.

Lets say i wanted a section on puzzles

i post the puzzle but in the lockdown box i write the answer - so people read the puzzle decide if they can guess it and reply with their answer.
Now once they replied they see the correct answer - so this way they have already given their answer and can compare while anyone else readin this same puzzle cant see the answer until they reply.

The above is only a small example of the possibilites of the hack - so how does it not have any use.I can honestly say regardless of the votes against my poll in this post if it was released (which it is) on vbull that most of the people would add it to their boards.
Anyway im straying now as the post aint about letting it come on here but about our rights to what we as the end user may want.

[rebelsrock06]

Frankly its not your choice, VB decides what they Allow and Dont allow, end of story

[lasto]

Originally Posted by rebelsrock06

Frankly its not your choice, VB decides what they Allow and Dont allow, end of story

Im pretty sure mods or admins are quite aware of this post by now and they could easy of closed it but upto now they aint as end of day its only a discussion.

[13th_Disciple]

frankly, it is our choice.. in what we, the end user of the vbulletin software, choose to use on our boards as far as hacks go.. so to exclusively lock it completely down to what jelsoft says is king, is not entirely true.. once you have paid for it, installed it.. you are free to do with it what you wish as long as you don't redistribute the software or the hacks to unlicensed people..

there is quite a bit more to it than to just completely narrow it down to what jelsoft says.. not to mention, the internet is a very vast place.. finding everything, everywhere is almost impossible.. if anyone person is able to do that, then bottle it and sell it.. you will make a fortune..

[filburt1]

There's not much point in debating it here. As several of us have said in this thread, it is a Jelsoft decision and should be discussed with them.

[Wayne Luke]

Originally Posted by lasto

yep i read the other thread a while back - and even with it i still come to the conclusion that its is up to members what hacks they put on their board.If its a paid for board then the choice is theirs.Jelsoft regards to vbull boards should be only against piracy and the illegal use of pirated boards or eve legal ones distributing warezs etc.

First off, this is not your board. It is owned and operated by private individuals and supported by Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. When this discussion originally took place over 2 years ago, there were no legitimate reasons for this hack. In fact, vBulletin already has built-in facilities to prevent members of specific groups from downloading files which is what this hacks stated purpose was to be. If that is the legitimate reason you want this then it is superfluous and unneeded. The only other reason would be to gather IP addresses and email addresses as people registered to track who downloaded it. This is also built into vBulletin.

The only reason to require someone to post in a thread before downloading would be to keep links to warez hidden from prying eyes. This is the reason this hack is banned from Jelsoft's sites. Its only purpose is to violate the vBulletin License Agreement which specifically states you cannot use the software to distribute warez or pirated software..