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Old 02-27-2003, 12:03 PM
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I would hope any hack on vb.org would automatically be copyrighted to the hack author. I didn't state that in my simple hacks but I thought it was standard policy. I, for one, do not want any hacks I have written or will write in the future on any other boards for download but vb.org.
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Old 02-27-2003, 01:08 PM
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our footer:
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All hacks are copyright their respective owners
so you can force everyone to take away your hacks for download from their boards.
That's why corbu should ask John for becoming an official, otherwise, he has not other way as to close his site or asking every single author.....
That's not harsh by us, it's law.
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Old 02-27-2003, 03:29 PM
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Xenon is right. Unless you have specific permission from each author of the hacks then you are breaking the copyright laws. Also unless your site becomes an official Jelsoft enterprise i myself wouldn't allow any of my (useless) hacks to be released there.

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Old 02-27-2003, 04:32 PM
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[BIf you have that official statement, you can translate those hacks for sure as a part of the official vbulletin community,[/B]
Are you sure this is correct? Vbulletin doesn't own the copyrights to the hacks - the owners do. Vbulletin cannot give anybody the right to translate my work and redistribute it as far as I know.

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Old 02-27-2003, 04:35 PM
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so you can force everyone to take away your hacks for download from their boards.
That's why corbu should ask John for becoming an official, otherwise, he has not other way as to close his site or asking every single author.....
That's not harsh by us, it's law.
I am failing to see why you think getting permission from John means he can distribute the copyrighted works of others. John doesn't own the copyrights - the hackers do. He's still going to need to either get the permission of every single hacker or encourage the hackers to start posting their work on his board.
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Old 02-27-2003, 04:55 PM
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Good point Amy. I suppose getting this support from John would mean that unlicensed users won't be able to download hacks from the french site, and then I see no problem with hacks from this forum being used there, however hacks ARE copyright to their creators, so yes, they'd need to get permission from each and every hacker too. However, if this french hacks site is going to be big, they could have some sort of affiliation with vB.org where hacks can be distributed freely there in their translated form...
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Old 02-27-2003, 05:05 PM
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I'm waiting for the response of jelsoft.

Also, I want to say that I want to respect work, and respect hacker's work. So if, it's forbidden, I will delete all posts.
I'm in the organisation to send PM to all the hackers of vbulletin.org to asking if they want to give the authorisation to vbulletinFrance to translate and share it on the French forum.

So I wish that jelsoft is agreee to help French community and allow us to take vbulletin system permission with customer number & password.

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Old 02-27-2003, 05:21 PM
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@amy: well yes and no.
depending of the lawgiving country.

My point is that when corbu becomes an official, no other users could get the hack.
he'll providing the translations to the frenchspeaking users, but they could download it here also because of the same license verification.
in the form now, also unlicensed ones can DL them, that's what disturbes me.

But anyways i'm not in the position to decide that, i'm an Mod, not a lawyer
maybe we could add a checkbox, allow other vb-team officails to tranlate hacks or something like....
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Correct me if I am wrong, but don't hacks contain code from vBulletin? All or some of the code, replace this with that, etc. So, as i see it, code is being redistributed without the approval of jelsoft.
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Well they contain partial chunks of code but not one hack contains enough code to build a whole vbulletin file. Even if you spent hours analysing hacks released here i bet anyone they couldn't put together even ONE of the files.

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