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Mark, I can not "Like" your post until I like others...

I would have clicked the on all you post in this thread.
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Mark, I can not "Like" your post until I like others...

I would have clicked the on all you post in this thread.
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Thank you, my brother!! We have to stand and be counted before we can make progress.
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I call upon my fellow atheist brethren to stand tall and be counted. We are vilified by the masses and seen as people who have had something go wrong in our lives to disbelieve in a deity. This is just not true...we are decent folks who simply cannot believe things for which there is no evidence.

If your neighbors and friends already know you to be a good person, and then learn you are an atheist, they will be compelled to rethink the lies they have been dictated from the pulpit about us. We are the future...we are the inevitable...and until we come out of the closet, we will be hidden.

So, I call upon those who require evidence before belief, to state as much and be heard.
There's actual Atheists, and Militant Atheists who actually are only anti-Christian anti-Jew bigots, and use the "Atheist" name as a comfortable little shield.

I am Atheist, and respect others' beliefs. I do not make fun of, or attack others' beliefs. Their beliefs do not affront me, they do not threaten me, and they do not bother me. I live and let live, and do not proselytize or condemn. And when the faithful want to post videos or music about their faith, I leave them to it. That's called, "grace" and security in my own beliefs.

Not criticizing friend, just offering food for thought. We're not at war with the faithful.
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There's actual Atheists, and Militant Atheists who actually are only anti-Christian anti-Jew bigots, and use the "Atheist" name as a comfortable little shield.

I am Atheist, and respect others' beliefs. I do not make fun or, or attack others' beliefs. Their beliefs do not affront me, they do not threaten me, and they do not bother me. I live and let live, and do not proselytize or condemn. And when the faithful want to post videos or music about their faith, i leave them to it. That's called, "grace" and security in my own beliefs.

Not criticizing friend, just offering food for thought. We're not at war with the faithful.
When the "faithful" dictate what is taught in our science classrooms, then I have a great deal to say...we cannot allow magic to replace actual science...
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When the "faithful" dictate what is taught in our science classrooms, then I have a great deal to say...we cannot allow magic to replace actual science...
"Actual science" becomes religion..... See how that works? Science is theoretical, not factual. Science starts with "we do not know" not, "We know and we can make models and fixed experiments to prove it."

Are you a Smithite, or a Nagelon? Do you even know the difference?

Are infants Atheists?
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"Actual science" becomes religion..... See how that works? Science is theoretical, not factual. Science starts with "we do not know" not, "We know and we can make models and fixed experiments to prove it."

Are you a Smithite, or a Nagelon? Do you even know the difference?

Are infants Atheists?
Either you require evidence or you do not for your beliefs. To which camp do you belong?
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Either you require evidence or you do not for your beliefs. To which camp do you belong?
Ahh see? You didn't answer my questions.

"Evidence" can be quite subjective. It was settled climate science for example, that if we would only just move into the arid plains and plow up the soil, rain would follow because we would release the moisture the soil was holding! We did that, and no the rain didn't follow. Of course, they had tons of evidence to back up their hokum, lots of studies and consensus, but alas, the theory was totally debunked.

I have a very high standard of "evidence."

So, back to my questions.....
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Ahh see? You didn't answer my questions.

"Evidence" can be quite subjective. It was settled climate science for example, that if we would only just move into the arid plains and plow up the soil, rain would follow because we would release the moisture the soil was holding! We did that, and no the rain didn't follow. Of course, they had tons of evidence to back up their hokum, lots of studies and consensus, but alas, the theory was totally debunked.

I have a very high standard of "evidence."

So, back to my questions.....
Evidence is factually based...it's not subjective at all. Give me any kind of evidence for belief in the supernatural and we continue...otherwise we are done...
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Evidence is factually based...it's not subjective at all. Give me any kind of evidence for belief in the supernatural and we continue...otherwise we are done...
Your refusal or more likely, inability to answer my questions tells me all I wanted to know. Your "atheism" is of the most infantile type, nothing more than a comfortable term to use while railing against the religious. You are actually more of a true believer than even the Pope. Because you fear the Deity, rail against the deity - you show you actually believe it exists!

And fail to realize that God and Gods, all deities in fact and all associated characters do in fact exist - in the human heart.

Just as any other fictional characters and stories Man has created be it Batman, Superman, or Spock. We create "God" in our own image, not the other way around - and if you realized that you would be no more threatened by "Jehovah" than you are of Jonah Hex!

You're transparent and laughable. But you're right about one thing - we are done.

Gonna sign up for Obamacare now, to get treated for the stitches in my side you just gave me.
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Evidence is factually based
Actual evidence, yes. Problem is, we manufacture crap and CALL it evidence, more and more...
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