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Old 08-28-2012, 11:30 AM
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Why wouldn't this one work for you https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=132482 ? as far as i can see there are images involved?
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:48 PM
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Why wouldn't this one work for you https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=132482 ? as far as i can see there are images involved?
it is only for new user register, not for member login, have you installed it?
so i still need a help .
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Old 08-30-2012, 03:11 PM
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it is only for new user register, not for member login, have you installed it?
so i still need a help .
It makes NO sense to want captcha when dealing with HUMANS. Do you get that? HUMANS CAN SEE THE IMAGES. It will do you NO good. They will simply pass the captcha and continue the brute force attack, if it is HUMANS doing it.

What you need to do is ban their user agent. Here's the mod for that:

Ban Spiders by User Agent

This isn't just for spiders, it's for everything, and I suspect the attacker you have will have something special in his user agent that you can exclude and it won't matter what the IP is.
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Old 09-01-2012, 01:54 AM
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I feel bad for the OP.

"What about captcha on signup?"
-"How about captcha on login?"
"What about captcha on signup?"
-"How about captcha on login?"
"What about captcha on signup?"
-"How about captcha on login?"

Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can set user agents in Xrumer, which is used for attacking forums.
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Old 09-01-2012, 02:07 AM
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I feel bad for the OP.

"What about captcha on signup?"
-"How about captcha on login?"
"What about captcha on signup?"
-"How about captcha on login?"
"What about captcha on signup?"
-"How about captcha on login?"
Except, I didn't give him that. I gave him the actual solution.
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they bruteforce with tools, not by human,
i think Max Taxable have not know what i mean,
they can use 100 proxies, then bruteforce password, if we have imagine verification, most tools can not work
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:39 PM
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they bruteforce with tools, not by human,
i think Max Taxable have not know what i mean,
they can use 100 proxies, then bruteforce password, if we have imagine verification, most tools can not work
Proxies don't matter if you find something in their user agent you can exclude.

Seriously.

Know how to determine their user agent? The tool they're using will likely be part of it, there will be other unique items in it you can exclude.

You have your heart set on a captcha where none exists in vBulletin, unaware that alot of these botnet programs actually defeat captchas. Image verification isn't a magic bullet.

Find out a common item in the user agent of this attacker, and exclude it using the Mod I linked you to, end of problem.

You act like other people haven't seen this before.
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