My Suggestions for vBulletin.org (when it upgrades to v4)

[Captain Tycoon]

In order words, don't fix what isn't broken I love this site the way it is and I haven't came across any problems with it.

[cheat-master30]

Originally Posted by Princeton

upgrading just for the sake of upgrading?!?

The top 2 reasons to upgrade are....
1__ security
2__ new features

security - we are always on top of security patches, etc

For how much longer? Read this:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...-X-End-of-Life

Officially... you have until vBulletin 4.0 to upgrade, before vBulletin 3.6 reaches end of life. Once that happens, this site is a sitting duck security wise if anyone bad gets found in that version. Because after vBulletin 4's release...

We will continue to release any security patches as needed until vBulletin 4.0 is released. At that time all support for 3.6.X will cease.

Yeah... I'd say you've got about until december/january to use 3.6 with any calmness of mind left.

Plus... again, leaves a bad impression using outdated software for an official site. vBulletin.org is an official site. People on various forums mention this. It's like a company employee using an outdated version, or a Microsoft group using Windows 98, if they don't use their own latest versions of software, why should the consumer?

new features - up to this point there's nothing screaming at us; not saying that we don't want changes just saying that what is out there is not necessarily what is needed at this moment


Should we upgrade? NO, IT'S NOT NECESSARY
Can we do it? YES
Do we want to upgrade to vBulletin 4? MOST DEFINITELY


Please answer the following...

Do we have to upgrade our software for you to enjoy the addons, the articles, and/or the thousands of posts on vbulletin.org?

Are you having difficulties navigating the site?

Frankly, people have been wanting this kind of thing for months, so to be brutally honest... yes, you do have to upgrade for me to enjoy the addons, articles and thousands of posts. To be perfectly honest, it is a pain to browse this site. The search frankly isn't very good, and finding a modification I wanted for ages is nigh impossible unless it's a particularly well known modification. Take the inactive user email reminders. I looked for a particular version, couldn't find it. Found a lot of irrelevant results first, then the two versions I didn't want to use because they were outdated, and I only got the one I remembered when I asked for it on AdminAddict.

For once, just stop ignoring everyone's suggestions. Frankly, I'm starting to think there should have been more Jelsoft staff than poor Marco running this place.

[Princeton]

I completely understand how you feel. This site could be so much more!

I will say this much - planning has already started for vborg.

With that said, I'm glad you keep coming back regardless of all the problems you are experiencing.

[Alfa1]

Good news there!

[BSMedia]

Since the reason for not upgrading to latest version previously was because there wasn't any features in 3.7 and 3.8 that was needed, will there be an upgrade to vB4 because it has just about the same features as 3.6/7/8 except the CMS and friendly URL's which probably wouldn't get put to much use any way.

Edit: Hasn't "planning" always been under way to improve this site and its still been pretty stagnate for a while.

[puertoblack2003]

Originally Posted by Princeton

I completely understand how you feel. This site could be so much more!

I will say this much - planning has already started for vborg.

With that said, I'm glad you keep coming back regardless of all the problems you are experiencing.

i like it the way it is..nice and simple...be yourself vb.org !!!! :up: as it was mentioned so many times this site is not a money making site.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by cheat-master30

so to be brutally honest... yes, you do have to upgrade for me to enjoy the addons, articles and thousands of posts.

How would vb 3.7, 3.8 or even 4.0 make the addons or posts more enjoyable ?

Originally Posted by cheat-master30

To be perfectly honest, it is a pain to browse this site. The search frankly isn't very good, and finding a modification I wanted for ages is nigh impossible unless it's a particularly well known modification.

So how is it a pain exactly ? Its pretty much a standard vb site as far as browsing goes, no different to thousands of others.

The search is no different in vb 3.7 or 3.8, so upgrading to them would make zero difference. The search in 4.0 is different, but Im not convinced it would make much difference to your example, as its still mysql fulltext based.

Originally Posted by cheat-master30

For once, just stop ignoring everyone's suggestions.

We dont, and never have. Nor do we blindly accept them without reason.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

With vBulletin 3.7 & 3.8 there where no strong enough reasons for us to make the move.

With vBulletin 4.0, some major improvements with that version and the 3.6 version becoming end of life, the situation has changed. We are already designing and planning a new version of vBulletin.org using vBulletin version 4.0 for some time now. The real work on this will start once vBulletin 4.0 is stable. This will involve work done by the vBulletin.org volunteer staff but also resources from IB that will only come available once vBulletin 4.0 is stable.

[cheat-master30]

Originally Posted by Paul M

How would vb 3.7, 3.8 or even 4.0 make the addons or posts more enjoyable ?


So how is it a pain exactly ? Its pretty much a standard vb site as far as browsing goes, no different to thousands of others.

The search is no different in vb 3.7 or 3.8, so upgrading to them would make zero difference. The search in 4.0 is different, but Im not convinced it would make much difference to your example, as its still mysql fulltext based.

That's why I mentioned vBulletin 4, since I hear it's serching is more reliable. Now, just something I heard, since as I mentioned before (I think on vBulletin.com), the vBulletin (and Invision Power Board) search features are not particularly reliable, are pretty server intensive, and don't bring most of the results any more normal search engine would bring.

We dont, and never have. Nor do we blindly accept them without reason.

Not what some other people have been saying:

http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbu...ex2/#post57758

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden

With vBulletin 3.7 & 3.8 there where no strong enough reasons for us to make the move.

With vBulletin 4.0, some major improvements with that version and the 3.6 version becoming end of life, the situation has changed. We are already designing and planning a new version of vBulletin.org using vBulletin version 4.0 for some time now. The real work on this will start once vBulletin 4.0 is stable. This will involve work done by the vBulletin.org volunteer staff but also resources from IB that will only come available once vBulletin 4.0 is stable.

That is awesome. And I'm glad Internet Brands is helping in a more visible way.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by cheat-master30

Not what some other people have been saying:

One person in particular, no great surprise there.