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Old 03-12-2009, 01:23 PM
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Probably you get me wrong Shelley I totally vote a full change for all vB.org staff , i stopped contributing to vb.org because of current staff's huge attitude problem. Thats why if they do something wrong , i came here and judge.

Marco is paid via Jelsoft and he should have no time excuse at all. If you are getting paid , you need to do the job you are hired for. But thats not my problem , its actually Jelsofts problem.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:32 PM
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Well, I'm not going to stop contributing. If other people just simply want to quit that is their privilege. The integration of the smilies is a step forward (give the forum more character). Yeah yeah, I know it's smilies but either way I'd like to see them soon without the pro-long stages.

Heck, with all these stages I thought it was part of the movie "deathrace" Stage 1 (deep voice) we are discussing smiley's. Stage two subscribe to the suggesting of the smilies. Just getting the feeling it will be yet another talked about implementation when it doesn't need to be.

If smilies are hard to find I would have thought smilies created by the community for the community would have been the right path to take. Take full advantage of the talent here instead of a 3rd party site but that's another story which I don't intend to debate on purely for the fact that we settle for a 3rd part creation unless the pro-longed reason is because the smilies about to be implemented are custom made for this site which would partially explain why it's took this long.

Regardless of that. That's my last comment in this thread my question was partially answered.
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:38 PM
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Well, I'm not going to stop contributing. If other people just simply want to quit that is their privilege. The integration of the smilies is a step forward (give the forum more character). Yeah yeah, I know it's smilies but either way I'd like to see them soon without the pro-long stages.

Heck, with all these stages I thought it was part of the movie "deathrace" Stage 1 (deep voice) we are discussing smiley's. Stage two subscribe to the suggesting of the smilies. Just getting the feeling it will be yet another talked about implementation when it doesn't need to be.

If smilies are hard to find I would have thought smilies created by the community for the community would have been the right path to take. Take full advantage of the talent here instead of a 3rd party site but that's another story which I don't intend to debate on purely for the fact that we settle for a 3rd part creation unless the pro-longed reason is because the smilies about to be implemented are custom made for this site which would partially explain why it's took this long.

Regardless of that. That's my last comment in this thread my question was partially answered.
This comment just shows that you have no insight what so ever into what the staff was doing in the process of these graphics. Wait for the announcement, it's coming.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:11 PM
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Eitherway, it's being pro-longed for some reason or another but judging by the length of time could the smilies actually be custom made for vbulletin.org?
Thats right - its been deliberately prolonged, in fact its been specially drawn out just to see how long it would take for certain members to come up with some conspiricy about it being prolonged.

Of course, it could just be that all the staff have lives outside of vb.org, so we havent got round to the next step yet, but the truth is just so much more boring. :erm:

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Marco is paid via Jelsoft and he should have no time excuse at all. If you are getting paid , you need to do the job you are hired for. But thats not my problem , its actually Jelsofts problem.
Marco is not paid to work on vb.org, no one is - just another myth that keeps the paranoid happy, but hey, theres that boring old truth again ....
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:50 AM
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Probably you get me wrong Shelley I totally vote a full change for all vB.org staff, i stopped contributing to vb.org because of current staff's huge attitude problem. Thats why if they do something wrong , i came here and judge.
Honestly I don't come around much anymore for the same reason. This thread is a perfect example. They're smilies, for crying out loud.

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Of course, it could just be that all the staff have lives outside of vb.org, so we havent got round to the next step yet, but the truth is just so much more boring.
Then perhaps it's best that Jelsoft add some new staff members who have time to take care of the site that their paying customers have such a vested interest into. If the current staff doesn't have the time to take on a task as simple as adding some smilies, it would clearly be in their best interest to keep their customers happy by installing a new support team that has the time to put into a site as busy, and essential to their product's popularity, as the one that drives it's modding community.

There's no doubt that a decent amount of vb's success is largely due to this site and the modifications that the designers and coders that make up this site take the time to share.
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:33 AM
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Again, these comments just show a lack of true understanding of what goes on behind the scene at vBulletin.org. Being staff just doesn't involve going around catering to the members every whim, it involves quite a bit of behind the scenes work. Reported posts, code checking (exploits, copyright, etc.), and regular moderating duties all in addition to our lives, supporting or creating our contributions, and on various other things that include lots. Oh yeah, most of us have our own sites too, shouldn't we take care of them, or is this site more important than any personal site I paid to create? This type of complaining is based on what you see, with no understanding of what Paul said or what we do. So don't jump to conclusions and please (for the live of everything!) listen to Paul and wait for the announcement. Marco already said it will be soon!
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:01 AM
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This type of complaining is based on what you see, with no understanding of what Paul said or what we do
This would be true if you weren't talking to a community made up of forum administrators, many of us with sites bigger, and busier, than this one. It's the smug "You don't know what goes on" comments that come across as snottish. We do know. We run forums as well, remember?

When you guys (not you, KK, but Paul and Marco in particular) address us with the same degree of respect that you expect us to address you with, things will get better. Disregarding the majority of inquiries as complaining and whining doesn't establish any camaraderie between the staff and the members - it's quite the opposite. Nobody appreciates a dismissive, uppity forum admin. Especially not other forum admins.

You're talking about smilies. SMILIES. I design weapons systems for the military for a living. I'm busy too. I add smilies. They're freakin' smilies. You have to laugh at how ridiculous it sounds when you come out with "you have to wait for the announcement that announces that we have discussed in depth the addition of said smilies, and will proceed to Smiley Spiral II, which is the commencement for the follow-up presentation of the smiley discussion previously discussed in Smiley Spiral I, ultimately ending in execution of MainEx for Smiley Installation 09-3."

This type of thing is supposed to be fun. You don't always need to approach things with the seriousness of a tax auditor.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:06 AM
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With the way some people (not saying you) act, I can't figure out how they run forums. And if it came off snottish, sorry, but vBulletin.org has that "we paid" aspect that just adds a PITA. But really, when people think the staff is just sitting around, there's a lot going on. For example, the graphics tab: the public so "no action" but there was a rather lengthy discussion that lasted a good while on the subject!
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With the way some people (not saying you) act, I can't figure out how they run forums. And if it came off snottish, sorry, but vBulletin.org has that "we paid" aspect that just adds a PITA. But really, when people think the staff is just sitting around, there's a lot going on. For example, the graphics tab: the public so "no action" but there was a rather lengthy discussion that lasted a good while on the subject!
I don't even really care at this point, and I've never had a problem with you anyway bro. Honestly, you have to laugh at what a ridiculous discussion this even is in the first place. I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't think you're just sitting around. I just think "hey, let's add some smilies" really didn't need to turn into such a monster discussion that requires a herculean team effort to pull off.

Hell, I spend about 1/100th of the effort in this thread deciding which type of beer to order at the pub, that's a MUCH more important decision to make.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:18 AM
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I don't drink so, not really. And there was a discussion on various aspects of stage two.
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