BirdieChance.co.uk - Golf Forum

[bbcentral]

That's a nice forum!
I like your custom forum icons, they work really well. And so does the background image!

I'd personally change your forum title, at the moment your site is called "BirdieChance.co.uk/forums", which is a URL rather than a proper title.

What about calling your forum simply "Birdie Chance"? (Or "BirdieChance" if you prefer).

I like your concept for the logo, but it still doesn't quite do it for me. It's tough work, logo's are what I've always struggled with. I have no idea how to use Photoshop, so I create all my graphics in Fireworks, which works alright for me.

I wonder if there's a way to do something about the header image. You want your logo to be instantly recognizable by people, so you can develop a bit of a "brand". The only thing I can come up with right now (after 2 days with no sleep that is :P) is to find a photo similar to the middle one in the header, one that shows a real flag on a golf course. And then put your logo over the top of it, with the text to the side. It's a little hard to explain, I can see the image in my head but I can't quite describe it :P

If I get a chance I might knock something together for you, just a quick 2 minute proof of concept. And I also place a strong emphasis on how fast the page loads, nothing worse than a forum with a 200KB header image!

The guys at vBSEO.com wrote this awesome article on boosting your site's search engine optimization:
http://www.vbseo.com/f45/your-site-r...o-first-23762/
Obviously ignore the section on "vBSEO Tweaks" and "Supporting Software", those don't apply (not worth spending the money on vBSEO just yet).

I'd recommend reading:
Forum Design
Forum Template Edits / Navigation
Keyword Improvement
Help From Google

Those will be extremely useful to you. Not all of them will apply, but you might be able to boost your traffic. Especially running Google Analytics, which may be the coolest free software ever released :P
I wanted to find out if I would have any trouble switching my site from an 800x600 to 1024x768 resolution based design. So I logged into Analytics and created a report, and I found out only 3% of my visitors were using 800x600 resolution still. And then I narrowed it down, most of those people were not members.
It's also great if you're putting links to your forum around the place and you want to be able to track where everyone's coming from, what countries, what browsers, what search engine keywords etc.

I've just spent 2 months learning about all these things, and my visitors have gone from 600 to 1000 a day now, it's obvious you really want your forum to succeed and I'd love to see you make it happen

Edit: Well it didn't really turn out too well, but I think it shows what I want it to:
Attachment 95649

I'm really not that good when it comes to graphics, I'm more of a programming guy :P

[Brandon Sheley]

I would like to see a little less green still. I like the idea, but still to much green.
I would like to see the welcome message made into an image while splitting up that text with more golfing images.
I would like to see longer forum descriptions. Right now, you have them around 90 for the longer ones. I like to get the descriptions up around 250 characters. The forumdisplay pages get well indexed in search engines, the forum description is a great place to add valuable keywords. Which brings me to my next tip, remove the "powered by vBulletin" from your title tag. This is perfectly legal and recommended.

Good luck with the site

[jlew24asu]

I really dont understand why people always suggest taking "powered by vbulletin" out of the tag.

sometimes I actually google (for example) "sports board vbulletin"

I intentionally look for vbulletin boards....and really like the fact that my boards are vbulletin and want it to be known.

[bbcentral]

Originally Posted by jlew24asu

I really dont understand why people always suggest taking "powered by vbulletin" out of the tag.

sometimes I actually google (for example) "sports board vbulletin"


I intentionally look for vbulletin boards....and really like the fact that my boards are vbulletin and want it to be known.

Won't the results still appear in Google because of the copyright text in the footer?
Here's my website results:
Attachment 95722

Here's a relevant discussion on it:
http://www.vbseo.com/f28/how-remove-...e-titles-4677/

Both viewpoints are posted there, but the end agreement is that it's best to remove it.

Of course I guess it depends who your clients/target audience are. If they're tech-savvy people who refuse to use a forum unless it's based on vBulletin, then absolutely keep it, it would be silly not to!
But for 99.9% of people they won't care. When I search for something, I don't care what software is used to run it. I'd pick a 10,000 post forum run by **shudder** phpBB over a 300 post vBulletin forum anyday. It's about the content and quality of content rather than whether it's run by vBulletin, phpBB, IBP, Wordpress, blogger, or whatever software package.

If I was building a blog, I would not put "Powered by Wordpress" in my title. I would think "why should I give up half my Title just to promote some software that 99% of my members don't give a damn about? That should go in the footer".

[jlew24asu]

Originally Posted by bbcentral

Won't the results still appear in Google because of the copyright text in the footer?
Here's my website results:
Attachment 95722

Here's a relevant discussion on it:
http://www.vbseo.com/f28/how-remove-...e-titles-4677/

Both viewpoints are posted there, but the end agreement is that it's best to remove it.

Of course I guess it depends who your clients/target audience are. If they're tech-savvy people who refuse to use a forum unless it's based on vBulletin, then absolutely keep it, it would be silly not to!
But for 99.9% of people they won't care. When I search for something, I don't care what software is used to run it. I'd pick a 10,000 post forum run by **shudder** phpBB over a 300 post vBulletin forum anyday. It's about the content and quality of content rather than whether it's run by vBulletin, phpBB, IBP, Wordpress, blogger, or whatever software package.

If I was building a blog, I would not put "Powered by Wordpress" in my title. I would think "why should I give up half my Title just to promote some software that 99% of my members don't give a damn about? That should go in the footer".

those are good points and I certainly agree with you. I guess its a matter of preference. I would not post on a phpbb board over vbulletin, simply because I cant stand them. chances are there is a vbull board out there with the same amount of content somewhere.

[james-76]

Originally Posted by bbcentral

That's a nice forum!
I like your custom forum icons, they work really well. And so does the background image!

I'd personally change your forum title, at the moment your site is called "BirdieChance.co.uk/forums", which is a URL rather than a proper title.

What about calling your forum simply "Birdie Chance"? (Or "BirdieChance" if you prefer).

I like your concept for the logo, but it still doesn't quite do it for me. It's tough work, logo's are what I've always struggled with. I have no idea how to use Photoshop, so I create all my graphics in Fireworks, which works alright for me.

I wonder if there's a way to do something about the header image. You want your logo to be instantly recognizable by people, so you can develop a bit of a "brand". The only thing I can come up with right now (after 2 days with no sleep that is :P) is to find a photo similar to the middle one in the header, one that shows a real flag on a golf course. And then put your logo over the top of it, with the text to the side. It's a little hard to explain, I can see the image in my head but I can't quite describe it :P

If I get a chance I might knock something together for you, just a quick 2 minute proof of concept. And I also place a strong emphasis on how fast the page loads, nothing worse than a forum with a 200KB header image!

The guys at vBSEO.com wrote this awesome article on boosting your site's search engine optimization:
http://www.vbseo.com/f45/your-site-r...o-first-23762/
Obviously ignore the section on "vBSEO Tweaks" and "Supporting Software", those don't apply (not worth spending the money on vBSEO just yet).

I'd recommend reading:
Forum Design
Forum Template Edits / Navigation
Keyword Improvement
Help From Google

Those will be extremely useful to you. Not all of them will apply, but you might be able to boost your traffic. Especially running Google Analytics, which may be the coolest free software ever released :P
I wanted to find out if I would have any trouble switching my site from an 800x600 to 1024x768 resolution based design. So I logged into Analytics and created a report, and I found out only 3% of my visitors were using 800x600 resolution still. And then I narrowed it down, most of those people were not members.
It's also great if you're putting links to your forum around the place and you want to be able to track where everyone's coming from, what countries, what browsers, what search engine keywords etc.

I've just spent 2 months learning about all these things, and my visitors have gone from 600 to 1000 a day now, it's obvious you really want your forum to succeed and I'd love to see you make it happen

Edit: Well it didn't really turn out too well, but I think it shows what I want it to:
Attachment 95649

I'm really not that good when it comes to graphics, I'm more of a programming guy :P

Changed to Birdie Chance Golf Forum after a members poll

I like your idea for the logo and will be using it in the new banner that will be made when I have time.

You have gone into alot of detail with your post and given some great info that I still need to read up on Thanks alot for all your help.

Originally Posted by Loco.M

I would like to see a little less green still. I like the idea, but still to much green.
I would like to see the welcome message made into an image while splitting up that text with more golfing images.
I would like to see longer forum descriptions. Right now, you have them around 90 for the longer ones. I like to get the descriptions up around 250 characters. The forumdisplay pages get well indexed in search engines, the forum description is a great place to add valuable keywords. Which brings me to my next tip, remove the "powered by vBulletin" from your title tag. This is perfectly legal and recommended.

Good luck with the site

Not many people like green but after discussing it with other golfers we think its the right amount of green.

I read about making the welcome message an image and will be doing it in the near future.

I will update the forum descriptions but after a big discussion we think as long as you say all you need to in descriptions then the shorter the better It seems many people dont bother reading them if they are to long.

Powered by Vbulleting removed.

Thanks for your input

I have altered my human verification when registering and not one bot has signed up in 3 days I think it is now

Added a favicon

Lots of little changes really.