Paid Requests Simply not working

[lasto]

Also what we should be looking at,is a solution to what happens after someone gets scammed and how we can stop these persons from scamming other people.
We either need a Blacklist or a simple member feedback system in place but i feel even if we had these it would not guarantee that members would still not get ripped off.
Its pretty sad when i have to go to an external site (scam.com) to do a post on someone who ripped me off on here ,over there.Because on there i can name and (hopefully) shame the person in question whereas if i do it on here,i risk getting banned myself or an infraction for simply telling the truth.

[Dean C]

Well, every time I need to outsource someone to help on a large project, I check references. I've been doing this for over 6 years and I have not been scammed once.

[lasto]

Originally Posted by Dean C

Well, every time I need to outsource someone to help on a large project, I check references. I've been doing this for over 6 years and I have not been scammed once.

well you know the saying `A fool is easy parted from his money`
Ive hired numerous coders on vbull over the years and the majority of them are straight forward and do the job - its the ones who dont that are the exception.

[Dean C]

Originally Posted by lasto

well you know the saying `A fool is easy parted from his money`
Ive hired numerous coders on vbull over the years and the majority of them are straight forward and do the job - its the ones who dont that are the exception.

But why take the risk? It takes 10minutes to send emails to 3 references. That's 10 minutes well spent in my opinion.

[lasto]

Originally Posted by Dean C

But why take the risk? It takes 10minutes to send emails to 3 references. That's 10 minutes well spent in my opinion.

Maybe u never read my post above - i checked out the first scammer and he seemed ok.He showed me jobs he had done and even showed me his Professional website where he takes orders from.I was still ripped off.So even checking people does not mean u are 100% safe.Also many coders on here proberly cannot provide 3 refs but that dont mean they will rip u off as ive hired quite a few and besides these 2 scammers the rest where fine.
And it still not solve the problem of what we do after we have been scammed - you can sprout all day about checking people out but its to late once they got your money and wont answer your pms even when u know they are online and just ignoring you.
A feedback system is needed and that way we wont have to be Inspector Morse checking everyone out.Imagine if Ebay told its members to check other people out by asking people if they where cosher before buying off them - you`d laugh at them.They implemented a system that was fair to all users (both sides) yet for some weird reason vb.org does`nt feel inclined to want to offer one here.

[Dean C]

Then you are your own worst enemy. I have a website and I can show you work I've done. Doesn't mean I won't scam you though. I could have worked on those projects, and ripped off my clients (in theory of course).

If you can't be bothered to check references just because most of the time people AREN'T scammers, then it's your own fault you got scammed. Maybe people will see your post and try to scam you even more now, knowing that you are so naive

[lasto]

Let them try because i aint hiring from here again - twice bitten twice shy.
So in theory your stance is if you cant be bothered to check people out then you deserve to be scammed ?

Originally Posted by Dean C

If you can't be bothered to check references just because most of the time people AREN'T scammers, then it's your own fault you got scammed.

you see i see it differently - if vb.org implemented a simple system that would allow members to leave feedback,and members checked that when looking for a new coder then half of these problems would be solved,but they wont implement it,yet they provide the actual platform for these scammers to operate.

[Dean C]

Originally Posted by lasto

Let them try because i aint hiring from here again - twice bitten twice shy.
So in theory your stance is if you cant be bothered to check people out then you deserve to be scammed ?



you see i see it differently - if vb.org implemented a simple system that would allow members to leave feedback,and members checked that when looking for a new coder then half of these problems would be solved,but they wont implement it,yet they provide the actual platform for these scammers to operate.

Yes, if you don't do your homework, you should expect to have trouble.

And we've had the whole feedback system discussion many times. The outcome is that it's very very easy to leave fake feedback. I know many many people on this site, and I could politely ask them to leave me positive feedback in my profile. I could also go around quietly, and discretely paying people to do it. Also feedback isn't a reference. If you properly check up on a reference you can ask all kinds of questions, you can't do that when just reading feedback.

[Princeton]

Originally Posted by lasto

Let them try because i aint hiring from here again - twice bitten twice shy.

Why even bother posting the thread..

Originally Posted by Dean C

Yes, if you don't do your homework, you should expect to have trouble.

sadly but true...

Originally Posted by Dean C

And we've had the whole feedback system discussion many times. The outcome is that it's very very easy to leave fake feedback. I know many many people on this site, and I could politely ask them to leave me positive feedback in my profile. I could also go around quietly, and discretely paying people to do it. Also feedback isn't a reference. If you properly check up on a reference you can ask all kinds of questions, you can't do that when just reading feedback.

on target...

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if a feedback system was the answer - then one would have been added

I, as well as many people, believe that a feedback system will not solve any problems - in fact, it may create new problems.

As developers, we are here to find solutions to problems NOT create new problems.

With that said, our focus here is on learning and sharing. This is not a "marketplace" nor will it ever become one.

[lasto]

Originally Posted by Princeton

Why even bother posting the thread..

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so other people know that this board is full of spammers.Also not exactly a good reply esp since its coming from an admin of this board.
You simply wont do anything will you - dont want to rock the boat as they say.I have posted who ripped me off in my paid request thread so as an admin can you tell me what action you will take ???