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Old 08-19-2008, 02:40 PM
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if we "help" it being bigger, and we receive not a single line of credit at the end, why would we?!
This is not a bad question. I can ask you, then.. why not?
Need I really a line of credits for my works, or do I just need passion?
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:08 PM
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This is not a bad question. I can ask you, then.. why not?
Need I really a line of credits for my works, or do I just need passion?
I don't think passion has anything to do with it. Basketball players have a passion for the game, so does that mean they should not be payed? Politicians are passionate about politics, does that mean they should not be paid.

Also I am very passionate about coding/programming and even when Im not coding for someone else Im working on my own projects that I release free(Non-VB). The difference being is that Im working for free on something that I WANT to work on, not something someone else wants me to work on.
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:19 PM
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Within this thread we don't want to force coders to develope those modifications for free. They could be also commenrcial ones. Why not? But I think they should be done, at least the ones that could really help users to extend their forums. You know, if possible. If not, peace.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:14 PM
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I really need a sotw mod for my site that I will be opening soon.
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:46 AM
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1. Any form of RPG or battle system ever


3. A decent, stand alone shop system for points systems. There has been like, 10 points systems for 3.6-3.7, but zero shops other than IShop? Currently waiting for vB Commerce and Customiser (which will seemingly be excellent), but it would be nice if people actually released things like the shop stand alone, because many people want to use a different points sytem to the shop system, and many may not even another points system or a shop with the mod they chose to install.
vBMA is doing this
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:42 PM
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Images? I can get those in about a day or two, since at my own forum, I have like 10 moods suggested daily by members and had to actually stop accepting smilies because I couldn't cope with the amount.

Hint: Ask at most gaming forums or the like, or maybe a site like the Spriter's Resource, and you can often use them with credit to the author.
Are they making such images from scratch or grabbing them off some website? If they are in fact doing it themselves do they create images when they feel like it or do they work with other people?

Most people like that (read: usually kids/young adults) may be skilled but more often then not they are horrible people to work with. I can't even begin to remember how many "image designers" I've gone through over the years. Most of them get very excited about a project, claim they'll stick with it then two weeks later are no where to be found or have an excuse for why something hasn't been completed yet.

It's just too hard to get people to work on a time table for free and considering most designers think a "skin" with a handful of custom images (and no xhtml modifications) is worth $500 = $1,000... well it's no wonder why people like me don't deal with them anymore and just end up struggling to learn photoshop for themselves.

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Probably because apart from that, vBulletin offers the best features.
Let me fix that for you;

"Probably because apart from that, vBulletin offers the best features for me."

vBulletin is not right for everyone. There are plenty of forums on the net that would be just as popular if the discussion(s) were conducted via a mailing list or old school BBS. I'd bet $200 that less than 1% of the message boards on the internet need/require a "battle system" and out of that 1% most of them are probably looking for something customized for their own forum. This is why you don't see too many people jumping at the chance to write such a hack, the number of programmers interested in such a project is small and the target audience is small.

Now if we could write "RPGs" for the web that worked like WoW or Starcraft it might be a different story. But until that time comes most people are simply not interested.

Another thing before I wrap this up: Myspace has recently added a bunch of web based games to their site and from what I can see they are catching on over there. Most of them are just the same game with a unique name and different items and it all looks like it would be simple to replicate. However what you can never replicate is the user base at myspace.com. Basically what I'm getting at here is people interested in such games are already playing them elsewhere...so what good does an identical application hosted on thousands of vBulletin forums really do? Are people willing to sign up at "somelamesite.com" because you have an RPG game? Are your existing members really interested in such an application or is your time better spent improving your content and participating in discussions on your forum? For most forums it ain't worth the effort and the "Battle arena" ends up begin a not-often used feature that must be debugged every time you update vBulletin.
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:54 PM
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Are they making such images from scratch or grabbing them off some website? If they are in fact doing it themselves do they create images when they feel like it or do they work with other people?
Most of them are making them themselves, and a certain user made about half my forum's images for free. And a few other neat things that I won't mention.

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Most people like that (read: usually kids/young adults) may be skilled but more often then not they are horrible people to work with. I can't even begin to remember how many "image designers" I've gone through over the years. Most of them get very excited about a project, claim they'll stick with it then two weeks later are no where to be found or have an excuse for why something hasn't been completed yet.
I'll have you know that's horribly stereotypical and single minded. Besides, your problem is you had crappy image designers, not that people under a certain age are bad.

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It's just too hard to get people to work on a time table for free and considering most designers think a "skin" with a handful of custom images (and no xhtml modifications) is worth $500 = $1,000... well it's no wonder why people like me don't deal with them anymore and just end up struggling to learn photoshop for themselves.
Then those designers who have made or used images (Photoplog designers, vB Credits designers, ibP Arcade designers, iShop designers should help those that are designing said mods and possibly make images for them in return for I don't know... integration in each other's modifications.

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vBulletin is not right for everyone. There are plenty of forums on the net that would be just as popular if the discussion(s) were conducted via a mailing list or old school BBS.
I disagree. I know many, many people who couldn't live without even the default features of modern software, such as quick reply and such like.

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I'd bet $200 that less than 1% of the message boards on the internet need/require a "battle system" and out of that 1% most of them are probably looking for something customized for their own forum.
Let them customise things like items, enemies, characters and locations along with said stats and most of those would jump at the chance of one. Why else is that Battle System made by the arcade creators a popular mod? Heck, I know free forum hosts that offer the facility, so there must be demand somewhere.

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Now if we could write "RPGs" for the web that worked like WoW or Starcraft it might be a different story. But until that time comes most people are simply not interested.
There are supposedly RPG and game making programs and tutorials out now, although the last experience I've seen in this regard is helping with people's single player games and ROM hacks,

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Another thing before I wrap this up: Myspace has recently added a bunch of web based games to their site and from what I can see they are catching on over there. Most of them are just the same game with a unique name and different items and it all looks like it would be simple to replicate. However what you can never replicate is the user base at myspace.com. Basically what I'm getting at here is people interested in such games are already playing them elsewhere...so what good does an identical application hosted on thousands of vBulletin forums really do?
My forum's arcade is pretty darn popular. I've had people register to play arcade games, and others use it because specialist arcade sites are blocked in schools and such like. Heck, I know a lot of gaming forums which have found the arcade features successful, and a lot of the gaming sites I visit have added the arcade modification as a result.

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Are people willing to sign up at "somelamesite.com" because you have an RPG game? Are your existing members really interested in such an application or is your time better spent improving your content and participating in discussions on your forum? For most forums it ain't worth the effort and the "Battle arena" ends up begin a not-often used feature that must be debugged every time you update vBulletin.
If they can sign up for arcades, yes they are willing to register for RPG games. I hear from forums like The Admin Zone that while not recommended as a side effect, that you do get tons of people register for the function, and what not. Besides, majority does not equal right. I think that if it was available, the site's it is successful on would in terms of everything be worth it's development. Besides, I've never really seen an unused feature personally, and I know content is king. But without major features and add ons to interest possible mentions and retain some of the past ones, a pure forum will get dull over time.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:02 PM
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ha, I've never used any of the hacks in the first 3 post
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The need or use for them depends on the kind of site you run, so it makes sense you haven't (and that they're not available kinda changes things as well).
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:40 PM
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Well what about a mod that can only let you change something in a user's postbit like for a gfx site they can have their class in their postbit like novice, intermediate, semi-pro, etc, without the member being able to change it.
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