Modification Graveyard issue...

[PaulSonny]

I disagree Jacquii. Most coders (including myself) put alot of time and effort into writing code and it really annoys me when others copy my code.

Can you imagine if you wrote a lovely poem and then someone else claimed it was theirs? You'd be pretty upset right?

Thanks, Paul.

[blind-eddie]

Originally Posted by PoetJA-1975

But I will also say - vBulletin.org is a place where the majority of us are trying to improve our vBulletin forums. For a coder to go around crying because someone has used some bit of code that is freely shared here anyway is 1. RIDICULOUS, 2. A CRYING SHAME, and 3. A BIT CHILDISH.

Jacquii.

I am not a coder. But I have seen this here many times. I could not have said it better.

[noppid]

What's so funny is that a lot of the code that people claim to own around here was recycled vBulletin code to begin with.

I don't like having work ripped off in it's whole, but come on, a few lines of code that help a guy get a leg up should be ok. I mean the url does end in .org and there are no paid hacks allowed. These hacks are after all free, right?

To hear things like copyright being enforced arbitrarily without a even so much as an arbitration that both parties participate in, let alone a trial, if a farce.

I got slapped for using one darn line of code once and stopped contributing for years as a result. I came back to look around, shared some code and checked the reusable box so that that don't happen to someone else.

But not much has changed it seems.

If you want to own code, own it and control it. Don't throw it up as a free download. That way you won't be unhappy and some fledgling coder won't be embarrassed for using a piece of that code that he found in your work. God forbid we let someone learn something from us.

There's a lot of work here that should be respected, but there is a lot to be learned here as well. That is what I thought the point of the place was, learning. Let's not sniffle that and have a clique of code enforces looking to see who used one line of code from someone else.

Open up your mind and open up that free code.

[King Kovifor]

Originally Posted by noppid

What's so funny is that a lot of the code that people claim to own around here was recycled vBulletin code to begin with.

I don't like having work ripped off in it's whole, but come on, a few lines of code that help a guy get a leg up should be ok. I mean the url does end in .org and there are no paid hacks allowed. These hacks are after all free, right?

To hear things like copyright being enforced arbitrarily without a even so much as an arbitration that both parties participate in, let alone a trial, if a farce.

I got slapped for using one darn line of code once and stopped contributing for years as a result. I came back to look around, shared some code and checked the reusable box so that that don't happen to someone else.

But not much has changed it seems.

If you want to own code, own it and control it. Don't throw it up as a free download. That way you won't be unhappy and some fledgling coder won't be embarrassed for using a piece of that code that he found in your work. God forbid we let someone learn something from us.

There's a lot of work here that should be respected, but there is a lot to be learned here as well. That is what I thought the point of the place was, learning. Let's not sniffle that and have a clique of code enforces looking to see who used one line of code from someone else.

Open up your mind and open up that free code.

All reports are investigated before action is taken.

[noppid]

But under what authority do you operate? He said, she said?

That's the arbitrary part. Joe says so and you enforce it? That's just silly. That's where the clique mentality has room to blur discretion.

But hey, I'm not here to argue. My opinion is different and I won't change your mind.

Peace.

[King Kovifor]

We delve into the code for almost all investgations.

[PaulSonny]

I agree to a certain degree, if you click the re-usable checkbox then thats fine. If you don't then I dont think its fairs.

Thanks, Paul.

[PoetJA-1975]

Originally Posted by PaulSonny

I disagree Jacquii. Most coders (including myself) put alot of time and effort into writing code and it really annoys me when others copy my code.

Can you imagine if you wrote a lovely poem and then someone else claimed it was theirs? You'd be pretty upset right?

Thanks, Paul.

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Beauty for some provides escape, Who gain their happiness from eyeing
The gorgeous buttocks of an ape Or autumn sunsets exquisitely dying.

Wonderful lines - I wish I could claim them for my own... Alas - I didn't write them. But what if I were to write:

Beauty for most has mirrored escape, To luxury and happiness undying
For few who've spied beautimous ape Or snatched his banana whilst spying.

Are you gonna sue me for using the words "beauty", "escape" & "ape"

Better yet - what if I write 2a + 4 = 10 --- And someone has used that same equation in their Basic Algebra for Idiots book - page 7.... Of course "a" is 3 LOL - But should I be sued because I put the same equation on page 8 of my Basically, Algebra's For Idiots book.

There's a distinct difference between completely plagiarising someone's intellectual property and calling it your own and using a bit of code that has been around for ages and reworking it so that it's your own.

Oh - wait a second.... We're talking about temperamental coders. Hmmm - Thank GAWD there's no temperamental creative people walking around LOL

Jacquii.

[RLShare]

Jaquii why even bother downloading hacks if what coders write here are 'bits of code that have been around for ages'? I mean if what the coders here do is so trivial in your eyes then why the hell are you not doing it yourself without the use of anyone elses code. The fact is if it was as trivial as you try to make it seem then people would not need to use code from other peoples hacks to complete their own. The fact that they are using other peoples code points to the complete opposite of what you are trying to portray.

[PoetJA-1975]

How dare you - you don't know me - If you've seen any of the posts I've ever made to Coders who have so generously shared their modifications at vB.org and beyond - you would take that sordid little tone out of your mouth and toss it to the wastebasket.

What I am trying to say is that it's ridiculous for some pompous idiot to throw a +++++ fit because someone has used a piece of code that noone has set claim to.

If you don't understand that - then there is something very wrong with you.

Jacquii.

ps - don't put words in my mouth either - I never even insinuated the sharing from various coders as anything trivial - quite the opposite really. ALSO - before you attempt to read me for filth again - please spell my name correctly.