vB.org Is Not Active Like it Use Before

[Andrew Green]

Originally Posted by Connector

Hello.

Vb.org is not Active like b4 .... i remember Everyday New Hack is posted now i think it need week or so ... I Find in IPB /IZE is more active then here even phpBB ... So What happen ?

Go to the mods you like and hit that "Support Developer" button. With enough people doing that the people that can code good mods might feel a little more motivated to do so. But if you never write any mods, or donate to any authors, I really don't think you can complain that you're not getting enough "free stuff".

[EnIgMa1234]

Originally Posted by MPDev

I would suggest that it is mostly because of posts like this. When you are a coder, it's one thing to share your code with others who give back to you; but when a huge population of people have nothing to offer and need constant hand holding to install even the most simple of mods, well, it's get old real quick.

vB.org was active when there was a strong community of developers feeding off of each other; now it's a huge portal for people wanting to update their software with "free" stuff and then demanding support because they don't have a clue or are unwilling to spend even a few minutes trying to figure out their own problem.

After a while even the most die hard of coders gives up and just codes for themselves thinking "why bother".

I feel the same way. Just gets really annoying when someone comes into one of my threads and demands support. I had one guy uninstall a hack after asking for help. He waited 10 mins for an answer expecting me to come. After the 10 mins he made a new post and said "Uninstalled". That kind of thing really puts me off releasing hacks here.

[puertoblack2003]

One thing that everyone is failing to mention. That the coders do have other agenda or jobs beside here. And some are full and some is part time. I think that vb is active myself. And we should appreciate the free hacks that is offered , and your dedication that you guys have done for us. Theres is always someone BIT*HING about free stuff. STOP complaining what is offered for free.

that's my .02

[Connector]

i'am not complaning about mod outher iam just saying it is not active like it use to be..

Go to vB2 / vb30 you will find to many intersting mod in that forum but in vb36 just a few mod and hack compare to the vb2/vb30 forum ...

[Andrew Green]

There are still some interesting mods, but it seems the more interesting ones tend to end up as paid ones, probably for the reasons everyone has been giving. As the site grows, supporting mods is going to become harder and harder with more and more people looking for support.

[wengi]

I dont blame Coders putting their hacks as a payed services as doing them takes a lot and a lot of time but for the once that do release free mods we all should give them respect and time to update their releases as they are not doing it for 24hrs a day. I my self aint a coder but try to figure out myself if something isnt working in a mod .. i am a designer and have always tryed to help others that needed help on Graffix as that is what best i know to do even if i my self do ask others to help me when i have problems.

Regards
Wengi

[Inferno Tech]

My two cents are this: Whenever you release a free mod on vb.org it seems some people suddenly think they "own" you, and demand 24/7 support. If you dare not to give this they make a scathing "uninstall" post, and god help you if you release a paid version of the mod as well, because then apparently you are insulting them in some way by giving them something for free, just because they have to *shock horror* pay for a better version.

VB.orgs problem is the community of non-coders. They have got no respect, and expect everything for nothing. In our latest mod we have had more than one post taking shots at us for daring to release a paid version of our mod and not supporting the free version. Even though those people just got a mod *For Free* They still feel like they have the right to insult and have a go at the coders.

We even had an extremely prominent staff member say he was having some problems, and ask if he should post for help, or just not bother and uninstall it! This is meant to be an advanced coder, who won't even take the time to debug errors he is having, instead threatening to uninstall unless someone does it for him. This kind of attitude, where if someone else doesnt fix your problem you're going to make an "uninstall" post is ridiculous - especially from other coders.

If you want to know why vb.org isnt as active - there are the reasons. I know of more than one coder who has left because of this kind of attitude.

[Andrew Green]

Originally Posted by Inferno Tech

In our latest mod we have had more than one post taking shots at us for daring to release a paid version of our mod and not supporting the free version.

I miss the old shareware days

Great distribution model.

[bigcurt]

Stupid plugins and products took all the fun away from actually "hacking!"

I am just joking, please don't kill me :P.

[Andrew Green]

You do have a point there, used to be you had to know a little bit about php in order to install modifications. Now its easy, anyone can do it, leads to a bigger group with less ability to troubleshoot.