Not sure you wanna know!

[Kirk Y]

As you said, I do try to reply to all help threads when I can, but only if I know an answer to the question being asked or can even understand what the person is saying.

vBulletin.com doesn't officially support any code modifications to their software because it has the potential to disrupt their coding and leave the board open to attack, etc etc. Basically they're just playing it safe by not commenting on modding your board, rather they just send you here. Funny thing is though, you'll have one person direct you here and then two or three posts down from that you'll see another person actually answer your question... hmm.

[Dean C]

With an attitude like yours, it's not surprising coders are hostile these days

[Ntfu2]

What annoys the hell outta me with all these people who want all this free help, is you take time out of your day away from doing other things to help them and only 1 person out of 20 will bother to reply with a thanks that worked.

My favorite one so far has been when someone asked a question, then i gave an answer that was the soloution to their question, then i was wrong cause they cant explain what they are trying to do better...

[ubblite]

Originally Posted by lasto

He does have a valid point - most of us these days (inc myself) are having to pay for hacks these days simply cause no one is porting the old stuff.

I agree with you. The disturbing trend seems to be certain people have taken their "better" hacks and now charge money for them. Certain coders release "lite" versions of their hacks and have the option to buy a pro version, which at least is a better idea than releasing a pro version only. I'm also seeing more and more coders using vb.org as a place to advertise hacks in their signature while not even bothering to release updates for their previous hack on here or releasing new code. To an extent, vb.org is free advertising for these people. I also think some coders look at paid hacks on here and think to themselves they can easily charge for their code as well. Even though I haven't been a member here that long, I have noticed the lack of high-end hacks available at no cost and now that 3.6 is out, the problem becomes more apparent. While some people have mentioned coders come and go on here, I'm seeing more people ignoring or not paying attention/caring as much or abandoning their hacks altogether. Yes, I know you'll get less support for a free hack, but it's getting to a very low point.

Anyway, I think we are now seeing why vb.org was so against paid hacks in the past, and it all makes sense now. Unfortunately, some of us are starting to experience the end results of this. IMO the rules should go back to being very strict about paid hacks on here. If vb.org wasn't quite as strict about paid hacks in the past as I'm thinking, perhaps it should for the benefit of the community and this website.

[Adrian Schneider]

Originally Posted by ubblite

I agree with you. The disturbing trend seems to be certain people have taken their "better" hacks and now charge money for them. Certain coders release "lite" versions of their hacks and have the option to buy a pro version, which at least is a better idea than releasing a pro version only. I'm also seeing more and more coders using vb.org as a place to advertise hacks in their signature while not even bothering to releasing updates to their previous hack on here or releasing new code. To an extent, vb.org is free advertising for these people. I also think some coders look at paid hacks on here and think to themselves they can easily charge for their code as well. Even though I haven't been a member here that long, I have noticed the lack of high-end hacks available at no cost and now that 3.6 is out, the problem becomes more apparent. While some people have mentioned that coders come and go on here, I'm seeing more people ignoring or not paying attention/caring as much or abandoning their hacks altogether. Yes, I know you'll get less support for a free hack, but it's getting to a very low point.

Anyway, I think we are now seeing why vb.org was so against paid hacks in the past, and it all makes sense now. Unfortunately, some of us are starting to experience the end results of this. I think the rules should go back to being very strict about paid hacks on here. If vb.org wasn't quite as strict about paid hacks in the past as I'm thinking, perhaps it should for the benefit of the community and this website.

Feel free to create some large modifications and release them here. What is stopping you?

[ubblite]

Originally Posted by SirAdrian

Feel free to create some large modifications and release them here. What is stopping you?

What is your point? Did I say coders didn't have the right to charge for hacks? No. I simply mentioned how it is affecting vb.org.

[Slyfox1]

Originally Posted by Dean C

With an attitude like yours, it's not surprising coders are hostile these days

An attitude like mine?

Get back under ya rock!

[Adrian Schneider]

Originally Posted by ubblite

What is your point? Did I say coders didn't have the right to charge for hacks? No. I simply mentioned how it is affecting vb.org.

My point is that you have the power to fix it, yet you don't. I would almost call that hypocritical. It can take an extraordinary amount of work to create, maintain, and support hacks. Not everyone has the time to do it, and if they do, there is nothing wrong with charging money for their efforts. People need to pay bills.

Anyway, I'm not picking on you (nothing personal, just dislike your comment, or at least the leecher attitude behind it).

Same goes for you Slyfox.

[ubblite]

Originally Posted by SirAdrian

My point is that you have the power to fix it, yet you don't. I would almost call that hypocritical. It can take an extraordinary amount of work to create, maintain, and support hacks. Not everyone has the time to do it, and if they do, there is nothing wrong with charging money for their efforts. People need to pay bills.

I agree there is nothing wrong charging for hacks, but I'm not sure if that is what vb.org is/was all about. And to use vb.org primarily as a medium to advertise for paid hacks is questionable. As an example, that would be similar to me expecting free adverting on a competitor?s site. I also mentioned in my initial post about the negative impact paid hacks can have on here.

[Dean C]

Originally Posted by Slyfox1

An attitude like mine?

Get back under ya rock!

Quite honestly, it's people like you who, are ungrateful, inconsiderate and rude who make me not want to release anything here anymore. Show a little respect and courtesy to the coders here as we don't owe you jack sh*t.