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Old 05-19-2006, 08:49 AM
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I don't think its elitism - I think it can motivate some contributers and thats a bonus for those that come here looking for modifications. You may as well ditch HoTM, CoTM, WoTHM as it only creates elitism. Ditch the coders forum (thats very elitist!), get rid of any payment of recognition.

I don't think its really that big of a deal, but I guess its nice to stand out a little more than someone who released a 1 line modification 10 years ago that no one ever installed.

I'm not meaning to give you grief Andy, just hopefully demonstrating that it isn't elitist - its motivational.
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:01 AM
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However I appreciate that some people like titles because they are proud of what they have contributed and like to display that. But if you want titles for that reason why not use the Awards hack? That way they can be more meaningful, so someone who has had one of their hacks win "Mod of the Month" gets a badge for that, if they have released say 10 mods and had a hundred installs they get a gold coding award and so on?
[high]* Hellcat hugs his title
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But the above get's my vote, that sounds actually quite good - even to someone wo digs the current titles (like me , do I have to be ashamed now?)
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:01 AM
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I don't think its elitism - I think it can motivate some contributers and thats a bonus for those that come here looking for modifications. You may as well ditch HoTM, CoTM, WoTHM as it only creates elitism. Ditch the coders forum (thats very elitist!), get rid of any payment of recognition.

I don't think its really that big of a deal, but I guess its nice to stand out a little more than someone who released a 1 line modification 10 years ago that no one ever installed.

I'm not meaning to give you grief Andy, just hopefully demonstrating that it isn't elitist - its motivational.
Of course, there are always arguements for and against any suggestion..

The reason I picked on the user titles is because at the moment, it's doing more harm than good. While it's motivational, we are also seeing an increase of modifications released whereby it is unneccessary to add or modify any code, and it could be done with a simple template edit. By my own admition, one of my old releases is a good example of this, but at the time I didn't realise it could be done with a template edit..

As I said, there's no reason to remove the fundamentals of those ranks with additional bonuses - but I'd just like to hide them.. I see no problems with HotM, CotM, WotHM(?) or the coders forum.

It's unlikely that this will be implemented anyway, I just thought I'd contribute a relevant suggestion that I'd made to the thread..
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:05 AM
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[high]* Hellcat hugs his title
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But the above get's my vote, that sounds actually quite good - even to someone wo digs the current titles (like me , do I have to be ashamed now?)
Oops - sorry if it felt like a dig, wasn't meant to be, as I said I appreciate that some people like titles and I can understand why. Perhaps if I was a coding contributor I would feel different!
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:10 AM
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WoTHM = Whatever of The Month


Darat actually made a couple of good suggestions there.
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:19 AM
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Hey,

I'm one of those folks who got the shock of their lives the day the new designer titles came in. Up to that point I was a lowly coder, and I will admit it, jealous of those with advanced coder titles as I had far more installs and mods than some of them.

However, I do think that perhaps the titles need re-working. Perhaps something as simple as changing member to community member, all releated titles accordingly. After all, it is the little things that often count, and without the members, there would be no demand for coders.
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we are currently thinkgin of a different system, but that's surely not the most important thing this weekend
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Old 05-19-2006, 12:35 PM
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we are currently thinkgin of a different system, but that's surely not the most important thing this weekend

Pah typical!



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Old 05-19-2006, 12:37 PM
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Without going into the in's and out's of this thread, to remove an earned status is ludicrous, the user title system is there for a reason and people worked for that, people talk about not alienating non-coders, how about not alienating coders? the idea that contributing to the sites existance shouldn't count for shit on the surface to appease people who can't be arsed or lack the specialised know-how is crap, it shouldn't even by up for discussion.
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Old 05-19-2006, 01:04 PM
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This site is only here because you have "coders" that are releasing work. If all of the coders left, this site would be useless!

The coders on this site make this site work in every aspect because they are needed. Giving them a little recognition in a simple usertitle is by far the LEAST this site could do. The fact that you would even consider removing such a mild thing would be a slap in the face to those that contribute regularly to the site.

Why in the world would a brand new member be placed on the same plain as an advanced or master coder? That sounds utterly ridiculous to even state.

I released one mod and have the title "coder" beside my name. That title means I donated in some way to the site. Now look at a Master Coder. Do you think I should be placed on the same plateau as them? Hell no! They OBVIOUISLY have done much more for this site than I have and in no way should we be deemed as "equals". We are NOT equals. They are MUCH better than I and have done a lot more for this site.

Those of you weeping about the usertitles need to relax and focus on more important things. With all of the issues this site has, that is by far a nothing and this thread is nothing more than a waste of disk space on your server.

Move on and let it go.
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