Did the criteria for Coder titles drop majorly recently?

[davidw]

Originally Posted by Brad

We just put names on a dart board and give the status to the names we happen to hit.

That explains how I got my title... would you look at that. Makes sense now. :beard:

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by Tralala

Apparently. Because as of today... I've become a Coder.

Go figger.

You have 1 hack, 16 installs, therefore you qualify. Seems plain enough to me.

[Roms]

How about making a chart with the member levels...

[ZombieAndy]

i think you should tighten it up abit, there's too many sub-standard and pointless hacks out there with more then 10 installs and people getting "coder" or "designer" status for them.

ive even seen people admit that they make plug-ins which do the job of simple template edits just to get the coder status. pathetic.

[Tralala]

Originally Posted by Paul M

You have 1 hack, 16 installs, therefore you qualify. Seems plain enough to me.

No, I know, I was just kidding around.

In the last few months here, I'm reading as much as I can, tinkering, and am learning quickly... it's been a wonderfully enlightening new hobby for me... but to think of myself as a "Coder" just makes me giggle, is all.

Actually, the recognition and access is great. Perfect incentive to learn more and take on more challenging projects.

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by LiveWire

I remember reading a rather old post.

Coder: 1 hack with 10 or more installs. Advanced Coder: 10 hacks with 20 or 30 install or more per hack released and Master Coder: 15 or 20 Hacks released with 40 or more installs per hack released.

I know the above isn't correct since not all my hacks have 20-40 or more installs, so I'm sure its an average # of some sort. This is a big secrect so don't tell anyone okay?

It's not. I got my Advanced title when I had 7 mods, but I have lots of installs on a few.

There are some people putting out cut&paste junk just to get a tag and see the coder forums though. Sad to see since it makes new coders (to vb moding) that put out something useful look bad as well.

[Freesteyelz]

Do we have a criteria of what constitutes an acceptable hack? The question may seem obvious but it isn't. If it were there wouldn't be discrepencies among the veteran members which I have noticed in various threads in a span of months. Example:

Template mods are easier to define, at least in my eyes, since it's a manipulation, extraction or addition to existing codes. Even a conditional can qualify as a template mod if it's not a common part of the vB routines. What is not easily defined is the title one receives for template mods. Just because someone can manipulate a code doesn't validate them as a "Designer"; Manipulation is just one tool Designers use for their work. Designers on a bigger front can also be coders.

So there must be a criteria for a (vB) coder and there must be a criteria for an acceptable hack.

Originally Posted by ZombieAndy

i think you should tighten it up abit, there's too many sub-standard and pointless hacks out there with more then 10 installs and people getting "coder" or "designer" status for them.

ive even seen people admit that they make plug-ins which do the job of simple template edits just to get the coder status. pathetic.

Well to be fair, if it has more than 10 installs it's not pointless - people are using it.

I like Designer. Look at my sig. I have 3 hacks, almost 50 installs, and I've written four howtos. I'm not a coder, in that I don't delve into the API, but I like to think that I've done slightly more than just 'member' designates. The lower tiered title works out well for me. I feel my effort has been recognized, and that it's both fair to me as a novice coder, and fair to the "real" coders who write much more advanced mods than I have.

I might just be misjudging your tone, but it seems as though you're taking it a wee personally - don't let it bother you.

Originally Posted by Freesteyelz

Do we have a criteria of what constitutes an acceptable hack? The question may seem obvious but it isn't. If it were there wouldn't be discrepencies among the veteran members which I have noticed in various threads in a span of months. Example:

Template mods are easier to define, at least in my eyes, since it's a manipulation, extraction or addition to existing codes. Even a conditional can qualify as a template mod if it's not a common part of the vB routines. What is not easily defined is the title one receives for template mods. Just because someone can manipulate a code doesn't validate them as a "Designer"; Manipulation is just one tool Designers use for their work. Designers on a bigger front can also be coders.

So there must be a criteria for a (vB) coder and there must be a criteria for an acceptable hack.

In my opinion, simple template mods are a design thing, not a code thing. Code = SQL/PHP raw mods. Changing up some HTML here and there is changing the design, not writing any "new" code.

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[Logikos]

Originally Posted by JumpD

It's not. I got my Advanced title when I had 7 mods, but I have lots of installs on a few.

There are some people putting out cut&paste junk just to get a tag and see the coder forums though. Sad to see since it makes new coders (to vb moding) that put out something useful look bad as well.

A pretty little birdy told me that if you release 1 hack with with 10 or more installers, you gain the coder title. if you release 10 or more hacks and an average of 20 installers each, you will gain the Advanced coder Title. Lastly, to gain the master coder title you would have needed to released 20 or more hacks and average of 50 installers each.

Originally Posted by LiveWire

A pretty little birdy told me that if you release 1 hack with with 10 or more installers, you gain the coder title. if you release 10 or more hacks and an average of 20 installers each, you will gain the Advanced coder Title. Lastly, to gain the master coder title you would have needed to released 20 or more hacks and average of 50 installers each.

That can't be the case, as I have 3 hacks with 10+.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/member.php?u=124739

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