XenForo - Has the vBulletin / IPB killer arrived ?

[theFM]

i just want to know why will i pay 100$ or 140$ to test a beta script , it is not ready yet , and with very few features in it .

this has happened with vb4 as well , pre-sale order , i hate this , i will not buy it , until i see a Stable version released and the price less upto a 100$ (without any promotional plan)

[Eric]

Originally Posted by theFM

i just want to know why will i pay 100$ or 140$ to test a beta script , it is not ready yet , and with very few features in it .

this has happened with vb4 as well , pre-sale order , i hate this , i will not buy it , until i see a Stable version released and the price less upto a 100$ (without any promotional plan)

You think you'll get a beta from anyone for free? Or one that's less than full license cost (normally) if you don't already have a license?

Xenforo is $100 during the promotion, and your "beta" license doesn't expire until 12 months after the stable release (not 12 months after license purchase date)

And even though Xenforo is beta atm, it seems awfully stable.

[vijayninel]

I will agree it seems to be one of the most stable and bug free beta software, but it is still in beta and $140 is a bit high atm imo.

[southernlady]

but it is still in beta and $140 is a bit high atm

If you buy during the 24 hour window, it's only $100 and if you live outside the US where the exchange rate is in your favor, it works out even better.

[Alfa1]

Mike and Kier have been coding for a long time. They cant do that for free. People have to eat. Its nothing more than logical they sell the beta version. And for a beta version of release 1.0 its looking pretty good.

Everything costs money. If they sell enough licenses they will hire more devs. Which in turn means XF will expand in functionality. So thats good for xenforo customers and also
for vbulletin customers because competition is good and raises the bar.

I think $100 is very cheap for a license that is valid for 1 year after the Gold version.

[tschai]

Looks better than bbPress and Vanilla already, which are missing very basic yet trivial forum-features.
But unlike those two XenForo will cost somewhere $140 already as a Beta and a minimum of mods, naturally.

However XenForo looks like 'vBulletin finally embracing web 2.0', which was what I was looking for in vB4.0...and did not find.
Although they could and should have implemented also out-of-the-box:

1. A Portal/homepage (like vBadvanced, not vB4.0) (although they do have a mysterious 'home' tab)
2. A Mobile/Tablet version. At least a coooperation with companies like'Ttapatalk'!
3. One (or more) sexy freemium templates, by one of those Wordpress templates makers. Anyone.

Then $140 would have been fair and they could have easily asked more. Much more.

Having said that, like many I have so many (self-made) mods, tweaked, optimised...I don't know whether I can switch at all.

But it does look very promising, despite some nay-sayers in this thread...I keep watching the developments and I am impressed unlike with the underwhelming vB4.
It'll be my first choice whenever I might be ready to upgrade my good old loyal vB3.6...kudos to them.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Please keep this discussion on the differences between vBulletin and XenForo.

Listing all features or discussing pricing etc.. is seen as advertising and such posts will be deleted.

[secrtagnt]

Originally Posted by theFM

i just want to know why will i pay 100$ or 140$ to test a beta script , it is not ready yet , and with very few features in it .

this has happened with vb4 as well , pre-sale order , i hate this , i will not buy it , until i see a Stable version released and the price less upto a 100$ (without any promotional plan)

Sorry, but no. vBulletin 4 was being sold before the vast majority of customers even knew what the product was going to look like, include, etc. When it finally was released, many complained it was nowhere near being a stable release as IB claimed.

Now, compare that to XenForo where there are actually a few public instances running that people at least have an idea what the forum looks like and includes (minus the backend and underlying code). Yes, the product is still in beta but they're upfront about that very fact. I'm sure there will be people who don't purchase a license until there is a stable release (and those who won't purchase a license at all), and there's nothing wrong with that, but sorry, the current situation doesn't even closely resemble what we had with vBulletin 4's initial release.

It's amusing to read a lot of the posts in this thread, especially since some individuals are presenting the same behavior as they claim is prevalent in the XenForo community. That said, I'll continue to use both vBulletin and XenForo as dictated by the needs of current and future projects.

[Angel-Wings]

Originally Posted by secrtagnt

I'm sure there will be people who don't purchase a license until there is a stable release

I'm sure you'll find "fanboys" who'll purchase everything if marketing is good Just see how many did the pre-order for VB4 and - maybe - how many got a nice (ironically) surprise

[Marco van Herwaarden]

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This thread has been closed and we kindly ask you to refrain from any further discussions as long as this issue is in the courtsystem.

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