HotM December

[EricaJoy]

Wow. Simply wow. After reading this thread, I have to seriously question the decision making process at vb.org. How does one get removed from a contest for breaking a rule that nobody knew about but the staff?

The line of reasoning that tamarian got removed from a contest for the same thing is meaningless. Implying that the psuedo-rule should be known across the board because the tamarian event occured is ridiculous. I personally don't pay any attention to HoTM unless a hack I have installed or plan to install is involved so you can't simply assume that every board member knows about the goings on about a HoTM they weren't involved in.

I was a little miffed about the removal of ibProArcade when I first read the thread but I figured, okay, rule broken, the removal is justified. However now that I know that the rule doesn't exist (matters not if the staff knew it, if the rule wasn't written and accessible by contestants, it doesn't exist) I wholeheartedly disagree with the removal of ibProArcade from this months poll. Either put them back in the running or nullify the entire December HoTM contest.

/me tosses 2 pennies and leaves . *smh*

Originally Posted by rjordan

From everyone's coments here, would vb.org consider calling December HotM a dead issue with no winner? If so, would you be willing to allow all entries another run in January?

i'm with rjordan with that...

i think that this flaming have gone too far, and this HotM thing is now out because there is now a serious lack of support/answers from the staff...

i really think that the vb.org guys need to interact a lot more when some decisions like that are taken... that would be a simple proof of Real Public Relations...

EDIT: oh, and i think of this... if vb.org guys are too occupied or absent for the season, maybe a GOOD announcement is welcome here... because i think they deserve their vacations, but actually we're not aware of any, so a lot of other guys will continue arguying with no echoes.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by rjordan

From everyone's coments here, would vb.org consider calling December HotM a dead issue with no winner? If so, would you be willing to allow all entries another run in January?

That's not fair to the rest of the December participant's, or those that will be in January's.

[dan35]

HotM looks dead to me!

[nitro]

Originally Posted by Paul M

That's not fair to the rest of the December participant's, or those that will be in January's.

Not entirely true on the December side, seems the runners in it was either arcade, if one of them hadnt existed it would have been as it is now (but with a lot more votes on the one most likley), as I pointed out earlier when one of the main runners is removed for a breach of an unwritten rule the other which will likey win now cannot consider the win a victory as it has no fair competition, Besides which I remember the v3arcade for v3 which romped home last time and was pimped rotten, a whole lot more than a PM to a select few of the testers and developers. If i remeber correctly it was pimped on the v3arcade forums, it was pimped in its thread and I am sure I got a v3arcade.com email pimping it aswell. I really see nothing wrong with a single mail/pm as a reminder theres a HotM comp, spam to me would be something like one a day on the same subject.

The January side yes it would be quite unfair to block in this months into next. The end result is there is no Dec 2005 HotM as there cannot be any fair or reasonable outcome now, whatever is permitted to continue.

[Snyper]

ibProArcade is my Favorite.
More Games and no Problems with 3.5.2

Please update your Poll and add IbPA to vote .

Greets:nervous:

[LEAD_WEIGHT]

Originally Posted by rjordan

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...461#post853461

Wow, LEAD, still going after me? All I did was take an example from the same post that is in ibProArcade's thread. Thus the "What's good for the goose" lead-in. I also noted that they should vote for that or "(or other modification)".

So is there an explaination for removing ibProArcade from the list? I cannot find anything regarding PMs either. Lack of staff response is disturbing. By all accounts, if it is against some rule somewhere, it is not posted predominantly enough for everyone to see and the PMs sent to his own people involved with testing, etc. should not count against the ibProArcade script.

Staff, can we get some sort of response to let us know you have some sort of justification behind this?

I went and took a look at ibProarcade, it is not saying to vote for ibproarcade for HOTM, only the best free arcade for December HOTH. In your post it shows to vote for v3arcade and the other's, but you can only vote for one and not the other's .

*edit
Anymore unwritten rule's the members here should know about, I hate to see this go on & on. :devious:

[rjordan]

From ibPro post:

Make sure to vote for this fully free version of an arcade for Hack of the Month.

Note how it says vote for this version of arcade.


From v3 post:

Make sure to vote for this fully free arcade release (or other modification) for Hack of the Month.

Note how it says this version of arcade or (not and) other modification.


I do agree, however, that the unpublished rules should be published. They said they are going to be doing this in the future. I also agree that it would be unfair to January nominees, etc. as posted above, but at the same time I think it unfair that ibPro got knocked out. Those that voted for ibPro might have voted for one of the other modifications and may have given v3 a run, but how will we know now?

I guess vB.org has made their final decision. No sense in continuing this.

[Xplorer4x4]

Since the rules are unpublished and not known to the general public, isn't it possible that the other hacks have broken one of these "rules" as well?

[kewl1uk]

Originally Posted by rjordan

Those that voted for ibPro might have voted for one of the other modifications and may have given v3 a run, but how will we know now?

Good point. Personally, I would never have voted for V3Arcade and if ibProarcade had not been nominated I would have voted for adsense banners in the archive!