An update on whats going on

Basicly, were are nearing the final stages of handing over the project to a group of coders so they will be able to continue the work. We would like to keep area51 open but matthew wants to use his license else where, since hies no longer directly involved. (That means we are sans one vB license for area51).

The uShop code is just about ready for a BETA test, it just needs to be packaged, documented, etc. Which will be the responsability of the new coders.

I will be announcing them over the next few days as we finalize some things.

[Snake]

Originally Posted by KrisV1

Year 2020?

Nah, I will stay on vB 3.0 thanks.

There was no reason to say that because it can surely happen.

[Decado]

From the First Page of the thread

"The uShop code is just about ready for a BETA test, it just needs to be packaged, documented, etc. Which will be the responsability of the new coders."

Thats where we got the finishing touches from. seems all you guys had to do was test, package and document it... Unless you're saying zachery is a liar?

EDIT : and you say they could destroy stuff etc etc, wellout it this way, even if you jsut get a few weeks on it and someone screws you, so what? you got a few weeks and lost nothing of any importance, since its just a private test. Or you can continue not using any forums and get how much... lets see... no work at all done. Your intelligence astounds me. Really, it does.

[Revan]

Then I guess I was mistaken, I haven't looked at the code due to not knowing what version control system we would be using.

Originally Posted by KrisV1

My coding skills have drastically improved since I got mixed up with a group of guys and let them do all my work. Since I started my own, I coded a professional website and customised vBulletin. So you would think that would warrant letting me in on the project? Apparently not. Zachery and Link(Insert loads of numbers here) don't return my PM's, and when Link returns my IM's, he is either ridiculously rude or fobs me off with crap like "yeah, [something about doing something later]" then I just leave. I don't expect the Store to get done at all, so I will be staying on 3.0. It is all well and good saying "Nah, none of you pay for this, it's free, so shut up". If you PROMISE something, it has to be done, no matter if it's free or worth 200 bucks. You might be sick of all the requests for it, but we are sick of the promises that are given out, we are sick of the threads devoted to it, we are pretty much annoyed that the work on it has stopped because the people originally working on it cannot seem to finish it, and (the most annoying thing is coming up) that they won't let insiders in.

I'm not well-known here. That is fine. But I am competent, and I even asked Link if I could have the files off him (THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE) and finish the project myself. But as before, fobbed off. So people, don't expect it to arrive.

Sorry Revan, it's good of you to pick up the remains of a dead project, I am sure the more saintly patient members here appreciate your help a lot, but the rest of us are just bored with the waiting. I am sure I speak for a lot of people here.

Matthew said (afaik) that he'd want nothing to do with it anymore because it wasn't fun to him anymore. So why he told you to sod off isn't rly the concern of the uCS dev team nor does he speak for the team anymore. Any promises / deadlines put forth from him is null and void.
If you got enough time to work on this project actively, and code as per the vBulletin Coding Standards etc yada yada then I don't see why you can't join the team.
I'll be sending you an email right about after I finish this post.

Originally Posted by Decado

EDIT : and you say they could destroy stuff etc etc, wellout it this way, even if you jsut get a few weeks on it and someone screws you, so what? you got a few weeks and lost nothing of any importance, since its just a private test. Or you can continue not using any forums and get how much... lets see... no work at all done. Your intelligence astounds me. Really, it does.

If it was nothing but a private test board then we could just use the "vbtest" part of the licence couldn't we.
And Zachery said that if we could get together enough for a Leased licence, I am to send the money to him and he will make sure it remains active until enough dough comes in for it to be upgraded to an Owned licence. To which it lacks $20.
Now if youll excuse me, I have an email to send.

EDIT: That is, I would have had I been able to send him emails

[Decado]

Uh Revan, i noticed you ignored my proof that it was almost done... can you tell me if you are lying, or if zachery was? People deserve to know whos been feeding them lies, surely...

[Zero Tolerance]

Originally Posted by Revan

It would also be coded in a style unreadable to humans, as well as running 600 queries to update the bank. If that's what you want... oh it isnt? Then just wait. kthxbai.

Well I believe everyone has a right to their own opinion, positive and negatve, but I do not believe it is in anyway fair to publically display negative opinions towards someone who has directly done absolutely nothing towards you, but ofcourse life isn't fair, and I'm not here to make enemies so I have no direct comment back towards you, what was said was uncalled for, so I have no reason to respond to it in the same manner.

Good luck with the conversion, I know how it feels to have a lack of time to do something which is in direct demand, but I'm sure these people will get what they seek before they realise it...

- Zero Tolerance

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Decado

Uh Revan, i noticed you ignored my proof that it was almost done... can you tell me if you are lying, or if zachery was? People deserve to know whos been feeding them lies, surely...

Originally Posted by Revan

Then I guess I was mistaken, I haven't looked at the code due to not knowing what version control system we would be using.

There's the answer, I should have used the quote tags when answering you. My bad.

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim

Wow so where has all the time gone if the developement is just now about to start. Also you crossed the line with the comment about ZT. You mess with him and your messing with me as well. Just you wait. You will regret opening this can of worms.

Rly.

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim

I mean oh lets promise to have it soon and then 2 months later your just now saying dev is starting after saying that you had it basicly done. I mean just what the hell are you trying to pull here?

I don't remember ME promising 2 months ago to have something done the day after. If you are referring to Matt then as I stated he no longer speaks on behalf of the uCS dev team.

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim

Im starting to wonder if you even know how to code. I mean the port up of this I could have done in no time. I ported up bigger and more complex custom vbulletin modifications in a few hours. So whats taking so long?

I'll give you a detailed list of what has happened since I first joined this project:
When I joined, I were first just "another dev". I didn't know much about what happened with the area51 (public dev board) licence, so I asked Zak if I could have Admin and FTP access to the board so I could update it (as it's still running on RC2). I was then told that Matt pulled the licence when he left.
I then asked so I could just get the development process on the move, because even if just the developers had access, it would still be more than just our localhosts. Zak is a very busy guy, so nothing happened. I then grew tired of waiting so I talked to Zak and then gained the responsibility of organising the whole thing.
At this time, Christmas was approaching. I figured it would be pretty dumb to expect the other developers to take breaks from their RLs to come to a meeting, so I decided to wait until after New Years.
And that leaves us where we are now. With nothing to show for the community and a meeting being held in about 2h 45 mins.

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim

Also it takes you 2 months to figure out what your doing just becuase it was handed off to you thats sad. It shouldnt have taken any time at all especially since your just porting it.

So it's two months since December started is it.

[Lottis]

Were has eXtremeTim posted this message you are quoting, Revan?
I do think that Revan would have some trustwith Zachary, since he gave him this projec. :ermm:

[Revan]

He deleted it, though I had the page opened in another tab so I still saw it and was able to reply to it.

[Lottis]

Originally Posted by Revan

He deleted it, though I had the page opened in another tab so I still saw it and was able to reply to it.

I cant see that you have made some bad comment about ZT.
Why not let the coders do there work and give them some pease?
Its not there foult that the original coders set the date sutch early point as they did.

This is new stuff and they probably need time to figure things out.
Give the boys some space and credit. They are the only one that was willing to step in, so why sutch anger? If someone think they can do better, why dident they?

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim
Im starting to wonder if you even know how to code. I mean the port up of this I could have done in no time. I ported up bigger and more complex custom vbulletin modifications in a few hours. So whats taking so long?

This is interesting. Why dident you do that then?

[TyleR]

Holy hell people..just because you have you're own opinions about how "easy" this should've been, doesn't mean it actually is easy..you don't know all the new code Matthew (Link17416) put into the code since his last release of the combined uCash/uShop.

Don't like how long it's taking? Well, i'm sorry, but it's not going to speed up just because you wish to whine about it.

Grow up people, b!tching and whinning really isn't going to do much here..personally, i just laugh at the people who whine and crap..just quite funny..if you havent successfully ported this from 3.0.x, don't speak negatively whatsoever, as you have no clue the extensive coding already finished by Matthew before he dropped the project for this very reason (b!tching).

- Tyler.