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#121
03-26-2002, 07:54 PM
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Very true.. and my forum would lose its "bam" once it opens.. it funny though.. I think this should be something that people pay for.. but instead people release it with no though that have to respect for us the spend long hours thinking about it, making it, so we can have unique forums... but I guess the respect doesnt matter any more... people just take ideas without any though..
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#122
03-26-2002, 08:01 PM
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Very true, neo. I wouldn't give any hack away for any money amount, because then that person would spread it to another -- an so on, for free. Just as tons of people do with their own vBulletin forums. And you know what, the person who creates this hack, whether it be PPN, Lesane or anyone else -- they will probably receive full credit from the community anyways. I hate the fact that if you make something to your Forums, that someone can make a hack of it and release it to everyone. Kinda like taking someone's clothes off and wearing them for the day.. Getting all the credit.
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#123
03-26-2002, 08:08 PM
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Sorry, I really don't understand what you all are talking about, I'm new the the vbulletin thing. I was simply commenting on e__dove's post for the features he thought would be cool. Afterlab, sorry if I missed that you were the one to come up with this idea.
I have a question: I've seen on some other thread's where people made or made and not releasing this type of "point" system hack (I guess it's called a shop), why is this so? Neo, you said once you release it a ton of people would claim it as thier own, do you mean just by using it on the thier forums, or telling thier board members that they made it? Neo, was your last post directed towards me? Please explain how I took someone's idea and tried to make it my own. -Dan
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#124
03-26-2002, 08:09 PM
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I know.. Its really bad.. I mean you can have something on you site no rpg site can live without.. but you made it for your site only... then they request it someone makes it then what?? you get jacked by someone that took your idea... I give 100% credit to shinra online for the store hack and have even asked if I could make a store for my site... they even helped me a little before I could code well... and unless you patent the idea itself.. there is nothing you can do to stop it.. but hope the hack makers will respect that a few sites that created the base of it.. dont want it made.
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#125
03-26-2002, 08:12 PM
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Dan : Its not torwars you... its towards a general base of poeple, I am not pointing fingers at anyone here.. I am just stating what I see..... its like a new fad someone starts it then everyone wants in.. then once everyone is in the fad is over.. get the general idea?
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#126
03-26-2002, 08:20 PM
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Ok yea, maybe I should learn some php and make my own little damn "store" hack or whatever.. I mean I thought it would be nice to use something like this, so many people, this huge community writing little add-ons; are you thinking about not releasing this because then every vBulletin will use it, and eventually people will modify it, etc.? I would be up for paying for something like this, and afterlab says he wouldn't do this for any amount of money just because people will spread it, this is kind of like pirating software, sometimes nobdoy can be too sure, but if you can trust who you sell something to, I think this will work out..
This would be great for my board, I'm willing to pay, just get to know who you sell this to, there are some really strait people out here.. Dan
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#127
03-26-2002, 08:30 PM
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Thats very true. If someone where to sell it they would have to make a agreement not to give / sell it to other people.. like the way vb operates. The main problem is that there are people out there that dont care and release it anyways not matter what. I know ShinraOnline will make a custom store for $$$ as told by the maker of the store... But eventually this store thing will wear out and the ones that really really want it will leanr PHP just to make something like it...
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#128
03-26-2002, 08:59 PM
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So, you're saying I have no respect for the true backbone of these forums? (The hackers) You guys are awesome, and I appreciate every bit of work you do!
Now, about the hacks that you are doing, that could be some of the best works I could appreciate from this forum, as I am getting ready to start a new RPG forum. (Once I get $160!) Shoudl be around mid April when I get the spare cash. Making people pay for a hack is wrong, IMO. Also, gloating about your forums hacks, and then saying that every bit of interest that is on them will not be released is one of the rudest things in my book. Bragging is what I hate. You guys here are ripping on this Saiyen (sp?) guy just for wanting to know some details, and then at the same time you are pestering PPN and the others about when they are going to be done! Please, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Isn't that basically what you told that other guy? Yup. I just took a look at Shinra's setup for the first time a couple of minutes ago, and I instantly fell in love with it. The idea of buying things based on factors such as post count, and the points hacks, is wondeful! I don't see this thing getting old, or blowing over. It's a great hack, and if I had enough knowledge to code something like this, I would release and feel good about myself, knowing that I made so many people happy about their forums and its features. I wouldn't be worrying about what other people think of it, or how they plan to rip it off, or how I won't be able to brag about my forum for having something exclusive anymore! Instead, I would give support for the hack, tend to the people's needs, maybe make a few updates, and carry on!
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#129
03-26-2002, 09:08 PM
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But what you dont understand is that for the people that created this in the first place now dont have a unique forum.. now every forum has the same thing as they do and then it gets old.. its not like "wow they have a site store!!!" it would be more life "just another store... thats it???" and as for Saiyen.. he was spamming to much.. it takes time to fix something.. not 1 min... people can chose to charge for hacks if they want.. its their code so they have the right to.. if you dont agree with that you can either not have it or make it yourself.
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#130
03-26-2002, 09:15 PM
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This is a community of vB hackers. IMO, that means a group of peoiple get together and brainstorm new ideas to add onto their vbulletin. It's not about having the best vB out there. It's about making as many people as you can, happy.
I don't have a problem with you not releasing something, but you don't go around and brag about it, and your skills in programming... In all the while, saying that you will be releasing it, then all of a sudden, choose not to do so, simply so you can have something in your forums that few other people have. The vibe I'm getting from you and Afterlab in this thread is "I want everything for myself, and don't want to help anyone." Very inconsiderate.
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